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Subject: Title? Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:37 pm

I was wondering what you guys thought about the front page to TheAirsoftSniper.com. It says "giving much deserved credit back to the unseen soldier."

I like that sub-title but it doesn't seen right. I think it is the sniper is the most recognized position. And it is totally over rated. Every one thinks that its all about one shot one kill but it isn't. And everyone wants to be one. They don't think about the long hot hours spent crawling in your ghillie, not covering more than 100 feet. Or the time spent on upgrading and practicing with your weapon. Now I am NOT being a sniper hatter, I am a sniper. But I just thought that this should be revised. THX for your opinions.

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Subject: Re: Title? Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:25 am

"Snipers are sooo incredibly c00l.... not."

"The issue is everyone wants to be, even though they aren't even that serious about it."

"Snipers in airsoft, on the other hand, bother me far less than, well, I get more bothered by my underwear riding up my crack. No wait, I enjoy that...."

"If they're bolt action sniping I can guarantee I can get a knife kill on them."

"But hey if they want to be frustrated and a non-factor in the game, let em learn the hard way ($)."

These quotes are just from a single topic about the ineffectiveness of snipers from a popular airsoft forum. These are everywhere! So yeah, snipers get a lot of attention, but a lot of negative attention! So I'm trying to shed light on the sniper once again, and bring some respect back to the role. How do I plan on doing this with TASS? The best ways I know how, educating up-and-coming snipers on tactics/weapons/gear/etc., showing each sniper respect (you treat them w/respect, they'll return the favor), and giving snipers a chance to talk amongst themselves in either the chatroom or this forum (sniper's section).

And trust me, not everyone wants to be one. Not even close, actually. It's true that many people new to the sport will often start off wanting a sniper rifle (b/c they have an illusion of the role and they see the high fps on cheaper models), but it usually quickly changes to more of a support/heavy gunner role with an M4/SAW/G36/etc. Sure you hear a lot about snipers on places like online forums, but at tournaments and airsoft fields you're going to see 95% AEG users and the remaining 5% snipers and other roles....

Sniping is not overrated. It's the 13 year old sniper with a $50 sniper rifle running around in neighborhoods with their guns and talking a lot of nonsense on online forums who make the role seem overrated. Does that make sense?

My 2 cents

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Subject: Re: Title? Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:23 pm

Right I see what you are saying.

(But are you implying that I am a "13 year old sniper with a $50 sniper rifle running around in neighborhoods with their guns and talking a lot of nonsense on online forums who make the role seem overrated." Yet, you are right, there is a lot of people like that.)
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Haha yah i actually know a 12 year old with a sniper that shoots around 350 fps. A couple times he has played with me and my friends, and no lie 50% of the time he doesn't have his scope on the gun.....
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Subject: Re: Title? Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:22 am

Subject: Re: Title? Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:24 am

I think the "giving the much deserved credit back" is refering to AIRSOFT not the hollywood interpretation of the sniper..
Otherwise I agree with you on this one Fox.13, through movies and other medias the sniper has been blown out of proportion. I am sure the military doesn't share this view, but now is it no doubt popular opinion.
In the case of airsoft though, I have heard so many people, even some juggernauts, dispute whether or not a sniper and his spotter is of any use for a team. I think for the majority of airsofters I have spoken to, they view a sniper as a waste of a team member. I think what ADMIN is trying to say is that you CAN be an affective sniper with hard work and you CAN change the course of the game. Nice points!!

Subject: Re: Title? Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:45 pm

Thanks for clearing that up. I just wasn't sure what you were implying. And yes Roamer you make a good point about how the media has blown it out of proportion. It bugs me that kids hear the word "sniper" and immediately think "50 cal." or "one shot one kill."
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Subject: Re: Title? Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:01 pm

Well, in real life a 50 cal should be one shot one kill... even if it just barely misses the target it should still make the person implode, but I think I know what you mean. Very Happy

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Subject: Re: Title? Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:32 pm

hey, I LOVE shooter, its a great movie that just makes me want to go shoot my friends Twisted Evil

.... I am sure thats not healthy lol

but the media does blow everything in combat out of proportion...

Just take the typicall shotgun victim in hollywood for example. There is NO WAY a guy is going to spotaneously fly backwards about 3 feet after taking a shutgun blow in the stomach. Sorry, simple physics... it's just never gonna happen.

Movies these days Rolling Eyes

Subject: Re: Title? Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:15 pm

Well I havent ever shot somebody point blank with a shotgun, but I bet it wouldnt be a pretty sight. Smile

My personal favorite is the new Rambo... that 50 cal blowing people sideways like 10 feet. Very Happy

It was actually a little on the disgusting side, but honestly I would imagine a 50 cal would make a persons body move a bit... they have a tremendous amount of velocity and the impact would be crazy.
I guess what I am trying to say is: they use them to take out armored cars... so obviously shooting a person with it would do some serious damage.
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I think a sniper that shoots someone with a 50 cal is getting distracted from his mission Neutral

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Subject: Re: Title? Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:27 pm

i think he was referring to the scene where he had the M2(the 50cal on the Humvees today).
but yes i agree if a sniper is shooting people from 10ft away he is either very stupid or very desperate.

[QUOTE Sentinel] and no lie 50% of the time he doesn't have his scope on the gun..... [/QUOTE]

not to sound mean but you don't have to have a scope to be a sniper. in fact in WW2 the top finish sniper(400 something kills) only used his iron sights because when he was fighting the Russians he found that using his iron sights was alot more effective than using his scope (scope freezes in the cold winters of Finland). even though he didn't use a scope because of the cold it still shows that you can be effective without a scope (if you consider over 400kills effective Laughing

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as far as the whole sniper thing goes yeh i totally agree with the above statements. a sniper may not be as noticeable as say a SAW, but they can be just as effective(if not more). they reason most people think that snipers arnt effective is because of the N00Bs that dont heed everyones warning and buy the 50$ "133t" "SUPER SNIPER". i appreciate the attempt(cant be effective just yet) to give back the term of the REAL airsoft sniper, not the 13yr old cannon fodder that claims the sacred title of Sniper.

just my thoughts

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Subject: Re: Title? Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:31 pm

Well said. Ya seriously they don't just shoot people with 50 cals. to take them out, although if you think about it would work. tongue

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Subject: Re: Title? Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:13 pm

Its wierd, but I recall seeing some videos online of a 50 cal Barrett sniping some Iraq soldiers.

Also, if you guys watch the Military channel any, they developed a new round for the Barrett that is actually a bit smaller and is extremely accurate at really long range (cant remember the exact distance, but I remember it being way more accurate than the 50 cal version Barrett at the same distance).

If it shoots a projectile at extremely long range and can take out enemy V.I.P.'s I would say it an effective sniper rifle.

Just my thoughts. Very Happy

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I dont think i get the military channel, is it on basic cable?
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Subject: Re: Title? Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:27 am

Lol there is a video online that I saw a long time ago can't remember the site but a sniper with a 50 cal was shooting insergents and all they did was blow up!!!!..... It looked as if they where squirls getting shot with a 30 cal hunting rifle. Oh and if you watch mithbusters they did a special on people getting shot with guns and getting blown back. They showed that in order for the person to fly back the shooter would have to also fly back the same amount of distance.