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PostSubject: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:26 pm

Well, guess what? Next year, there will be no MCJROTC program at my school. Why? Because the school forgot to turn in the paper work for it. Now all 200 Cadets of our program are going to be out of the money, time, and points we've worked hard for. Now I can watch my shooting scores, money, and points turn to ashes. I've had to go door to door to raise money for my program, I've had to show up at five in the morning every day for weeks so I could have an acceptable shooting score to be accepted to comp next year, and I've spent good money supporting my unit. And now the school is screwing me over like this.... Thanks, Rio Rancho Public Schools! Some of the other Cadets and I are planning to go up to district and complain. If it weren't for the school turning the paperwork in SIX MONTHS LATE, we'd still have a program. Mad
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:36 pm

You're lucky...next year my school wont even exist.

You realize JROTC really wont do much for your officer candidacy, right?
If you like shooting, start doing marxcomps outside of JROTC...it'll be much more rewarding and look alot better. If you need help finding some, I can hook you up.
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:43 pm

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You realize JROTC really wont do much for your officer candidacy, right?
If you like shooting, start doing marxcomps outside of JROTC...it'll be much more rewarding and look alot better. If you need help finding some, I can hook you up.

Who said I wanted to be an officer? The thing I like about MCJROTC is the order, the regs, and the feeling of being a part of an organization older than the United States itself.

I would like to do marxcomps, but I just don't have access to anything at the moment. All my mom has is a Glock 26 and a crappy little Colt that jams a lot.
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:52 pm

If you liked it you can join young marines or CAP, basicly the same thing it's just outside of school...actualy in the young marines program you get to do alot of cool stuff so check it out, I have no experiance with CAP so can't help you there.

Also if your thinking about joining the Marines most recruiters hold weekly conditioning sessions were they prep you for boot camp, PT, nav ect.

And if we can spend thousands on airsoft why can't you save a bit and have your mom buy you somthing you can use for the comp.
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:25 pm

You can buy S&W Sigma's, most .22 long rifles, and surplus rifles for under $200.
With a bit of research and looking around, you can get a firearm for competition on a budget.

The shotgun I use for 3-gun was only $600...and performs well. I just started getting into black powder...with a rifle that I bought for $100 (was a kit, had to assemble it myself). And the Mosin-Nagant is only going to be $125...and those are good enough for most target shooting.

The Civil Air Patrol is a cool organization...the annual encampments are hardcore and CAP looks REALLY good on a resume.

Would USMC Devil Pup's be an option for you?
They have it this summer at Camp Pendleton...I'm thinking about going.
Its a 2 week course, you do everything they do in Boot Camp and more...mud run anyone?
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:43 pm

I agree on the Mosin, their really cheap these days and yet it's still a good rifle despite most of them being around 60 years old (heck mine's 82 years old and shoots great). Accuracy isn't too bad on them either if you practice with them enough, even better if you drop a curved bolt in and mount a PU scope or get a optic mount kit.
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:54 pm

Yeah you can't go wrong with a Ruger 10/22..very cheap and one of the best .22 out there...It's like the AR-15 in that there are ssooooooooooooo many things you can do to customize it..ive had one ever since I can remember and its amazing...also for Shotguns Benelli's nova and super nova are a great option..not ver expensive and VERY light..they do some fancy stuff to take out the recoil...never used one but form what I hear they make amazing shotguns.

And like we said go talk to your marine recuiter...most of them have some stuff they do to get future meat hooked :p


...Also this is a bit out there but if you liked the discipline factor try to find a martial arts school and join...not tae kwan do or w/e...look for somthing you can really use...and stick with it. Competing in martial arts is one of the greatest things I ever did..granted I was like 8 but still :p
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:25 pm

Check out the Navy's Sea Cadets...buddy of mine is in it and it sounds like a cool program. On their website there's NM units in Albuquerque and Santa Rosa.

http://www.seacadets.org/public/programs/nscc/
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:30 pm

I don't even know if Colorado has these ROTC programs to tell the truth, and if they do I would need to go to a different school for the program it's self then go to my school to get my education. But no worries, I have to go to a completely new school for the last 30 days, in a completely different state.

Fun Fact: the Wyoming Air Force base give FREE GOLF LESSONS
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:41 pm

@Zane
Haven't thought about joining Young Marines. I'll look them up and see where they're at. Odd coincidence, today a Marine recruiter came to the school and spoke to us today. He gave me his card. I've also been looking for a place that does Krav Maga here, but it's hard when most of the state's population is made up of people who never pay taxes and don't speak english.

@Durkee
Are there any good handguns out there for under $500 that will serve me well? And what's the best chambering to use for marxcomps?
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:50 pm

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Are there any good handguns out there for under $500 that will serve me well? And what's the best chambering to use for marxcomps?[/quote]

Well most people just start out with .22's...but my all time favorite round is the .45 ACP.
You thinking autoloader or revolver?

The S&W Sigma is a great firearm, almost bought one myself. Only about $250.

You should shoot privately for at least a year before starting competition...
.22 or .45 are going to be your best bet.

Remember that there are conversion kits out there to turn a .45 into a .22 as well.
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:06 pm

Your best bet is to go to a gun show..I don't know were oyu live but here theres one atleast once a month. I thinkid recomend the Springfield XD(M) series....think thier around 500-600 and are very good. CHeck them out..go the your local stores and ask questions theyll be happy to answer. And if your tight on money, buy used.
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:16 pm

You may be able to find a Springfield XD for under $500 if you look around or hit up a gun show. The XD line is probably one of the best handgun lines on the market right now, i've heard nothing but good things about them. The Beretta PX4 Storm is also decent from what i've heard and it has a cool look to it, sorta like a FN Five-seveN.

Dang it Zane you beat me to it Smile
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:29 pm

Heh your behind as well, the XD line is old..XDM is th enew thing...they feel AMAZING in your hand...not too light..but also not heavy...wish I had the cash to buy one.
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:58 pm

Ah i see they have 4.5's out now. When i first saw them only 3.8's were available which is way to small for me since i have trouble feeling comfortable with the XD 45 Compact. Had no idea they now have the 4.5 XDM model. Mhmm .40 S&W is a good round but i personally rather have a .45 ACP or GAP. Either way though if it has XD in the name it's going to be freaking nice.
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:30 pm

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Autoloader, definitely. Just asking, but what are your opinions on the Glocks, specifically the 17 and 34? I need something nice and big because I have big hands. I'm also looking at the Sigmas right now.

@Zane
Thanks, I'll look for some gun shows in the area. It also helps that I know the owner of my closest gun shop.
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:49 pm

Check out this guy on YouTube, he has lots of informational videos that could help you out, and they're just plain fun to watch Very Happy

http://www.youtube.com/user/hickok45
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:34 pm

Ah, gracias, Drummer! I appreciate it.
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:46 am

Just consider that while Glocks are great....thier getting old, the technology hasn't improved much since they were made.

But yeah your best bet is to find somthing that fits yo ubest and is reliable, also don't get somthing "big" like a .45, your going to be shooting at targets...trust me they get heavy after one or two shots and you loose your aim :p

(By heavy I don't mean weight...the recoil gets you)

COrrect me if im wrong but here at our uni they only use .22's and I think thier top in the nation right now.
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:39 am

Yeah for just target shooting a .22 or a 9mm would be perfectly fine. .45 is a man stopper and not exactly a target shooting round.
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:22 pm

heh a 9mm serves perfectly well as a man stopper...unless his on crack but then a 45 isn't going to do much difference.
For comp id say a .22 would be your best bet...minimal reciol to throw your shots of and ammo is cheap.
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:24 pm

Care to point me in the direction of a good handgun that can be chambered in both .22 and 9mm?
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:32 pm

Jarhead999 76 65 wrote:
Care to point me in the direction of a good handgun that can be chambered in both .22 and 9mm?

Heres a great list to work off of...
http://best9mm.com/

I'm 90% sure the Sigma comes in 9mm as well...
...and I'm sure there are .22 kits out there for it.

I don't really know 9mm's very well...

The only .22 conversion I've ever ran was in the Kimber .45...
(Make sure you use HIGH QUALITY .22's or you'll have misfires every other round.)

You have to remember that some handgun comps require .45's as the standard round (to keep it fair, 9mm's generally have less recoil and higher chamber rate).

But you'd have to look in your area, I'm talking California/Arizona/Nevada marxcomps.
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:02 pm

If you go 9mm get a Browning Hi-Point Target Edition. My dad has one...he paid ~$600 for it but it is THE MOST accurate pistol I've ever shot. My dad took the cap of a 2 liter coke bottle at 15 yards....
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PostSubject: Re: School Systems Make Stupid Decisions. Well, Actually, No Decisions At All   Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:13 pm

o and for shooting .22...you don't need super high quility...I use the cheap little remington boxes..buck or two each and ill get one or two misfires a box so it's not bad. But yeaj I think this is the best info we got so tell us what you decide to do in the end.

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