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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Mon May 24, 2010 2:10 am

DrummerBoyz95 wrote:
I skipped 4 pages because, frankly I don't want to read 4 pages of...that..

But as for the HK416/417 against the AK, a buddy of mine has a friend in the Rangers, and his unit all got issued multicam, SCARs, and 416's, and they hated all of them. He said all they need to do is throw an upgraded gas tube and barrel in an M16 and you're ready to rock.

Also, when that same buddy was shooting an AK and M16 at the range, he said the AK jammed more than the M16 Rolling Eyes
I have heard of all of that except for the jamming AKs. Hardly ever see that happen.
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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Mon May 24, 2010 2:21 am

DrummerBoyz95 wrote:
a buddy of mine has a friend in the Rangers, and his unit all got issued multicam, SCARs, and 416's, and they hated all of them. He said all they need to do is throw an upgraded gas tube and barrel in an M16 and you're ready to rock.

Also, when that same buddy was shooting an AK and M16 at the range, he said the AK jammed more than the M16 Rolling Eyes

Highly doubt that...

A friend's friend's friend's buddy...probably not the best source Smile


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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Mon May 24, 2010 4:42 am

i bet your buddy had a copy. the original AK, only russian designs. hardly ever jam. if you are using czech, romanian, or chinese copies. the chances of jamming are much much greater. but your friend made a good point about just throwing in a few new parts in the m16s currently in service. but then again that is what they have been doing everysince the first one was introduced. they have been building up on the weapon system for over 40 years. the design of the m16 is effective, but i think the military is trying to maximize effectiveness, however i feel the 416 would be just as effective as the m16 since they exactly the same weapon except the 416 can fire from a closed bolt and open bolt position. but the differences are almost very miniscule.

anywho. AK's made in Russia are very reliable. everything else is crap. ESPECIALLY THE CZECH copies......
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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Mon May 24, 2010 1:57 pm

GO BRITAIN! Huzah!
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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Mon May 24, 2010 2:05 pm

britain is full of commies as well creed Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Mon May 24, 2010 4:25 pm

haha I just saw this thread while I was looking though the forum listening to the sacred war by the red army choir and shopping for russian gear =P

hehe... I'm gonna get myself a RS dragunov and RS Ak47 (type 56) and become red myself... FOR THE MOTHERLAND!
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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Mon May 24, 2010 4:28 pm

but you need more than just the weapon to be a red. you need the ruskie look as well. which i have since i am half russian (which automatically makes me super sexy) and i have a russian uniform as well (which makes me even more sexy!) us soviets turn out to be very sexy men ahaha, for mother russia
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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Mon May 24, 2010 4:29 pm

ERRRG!!! YAAAA!!! LETSSS DOO EETT!


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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Mon May 24, 2010 4:35 pm

dats vas up in the motherland! da! da! da!
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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Mon May 24, 2010 5:51 pm

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i bet your buddy had a copy. the original AK, only russian designs. hardly ever jam. if you are using czech, romanian, or chinese copies. the chances of jamming are much much greater. but your friend made a good point about just throwing in a few new parts in the m16s currently in service. but then again that is what they have been doing everysince the first one was introduced. they have been building up on the weapon system for over 40 years. the design of the m16 is effective, but i think the military is trying to maximize effectiveness, however i feel the 416 would be just as effective as the m16 since they exactly the same weapon except the 416 can fire from a closed bolt and open bolt position. but the differences are almost very miniscule.

anywho. AK's made in Russia are very reliable. everything else is crap. ESPECIALLY THE CZECH copies......

im sorry, but i just hate it when someone gets it in his mind that one gun is all superior.
ak's do jam, it doesnt matter what gun it is. GUNS DO JAM. sometimes its not the gun, sometimes its the ammo.
but aks are not the most reliable. they are not je sus guns. they do break sometimes.
i can't stand it when someone says that ''ak47 is the best gun and m16's suck because they jam'' because its not true.
neither are supperior
but they both are good for something and bad at things.
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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Mon May 24, 2010 5:56 pm

AK=larger round: stopping power.
M16-M4=lighter round: accuracy, travels faster.
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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Mon May 24, 2010 6:06 pm

I never said the AK don't jam. they are less likely to jam than the m16.
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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Mon May 24, 2010 7:26 pm

Edited/deleted certain posts. I think VT's comment was a little understood, I don't think it was directed straight at you NNDH. But regardless, it is over, lets talk about you dirty reds Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Mon May 24, 2010 7:34 pm

M14 double-taps wrote:
Edited/deleted certain posts. I think VT's comment was a little understood, I don't think it was directed straight at you NNDH. But regardless, it is over, lets talk about you dirty reds Laughing
Was wondering what happened to my post. Oh well. PS: we reds totally win. We've got a hammer AND a scythe!
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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Mon May 24, 2010 7:47 pm

Any firearm with moving parts, using combustion power, and undergoes field use will have feeding problems at some point or another...will likely be damaged at some point or the other...and will overheat at some point or another. Its just a fact. The proper use and overall design of the firearm will contribute in staving off problems, but they will happen.

But from experience and a little research, it's really easy to see that Kalashnikov weapons (and most Russian firearms for that matter) are strictly utilitarian as they were made for use in Russian winters...which requires a massively high level of tolerance to ice, snow, dust, and dirt. This is achieved mostly through minimalist design.

The majority of "jamming" comes from fouling of the action, bolt, or barrel...a situation that is less prevalent in AK by design.
But in the end, the AK vs M4 thing will always happen...so keep it civil if you choose to argue, otherwise you just look like every other retard out there fighting over it Razz

Gotta love the Ruskies...getting us to feud among ourselves from thousands of miles away.
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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Mon May 24, 2010 11:38 pm

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Myself, Lone Wolf, SnoSnipe, Phredryxun, Insane Mercc, and mgunner.

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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Tue May 25, 2010 12:02 am

HA! My Mosin beats both the AK and the M16, Mosin-Nagants rule.

Anywho i could never rock a Russian loadout unless i picked up the KTW Mosin or maybe Ares PPSH-41. I now hate arisoft AK's, to many dang screws lol! Also i'm for Deutschland. tongue
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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Tue May 25, 2010 12:38 am

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HA! My Mosin beats both the AK and the M16, Mosin-Nagants rule.

Anywho i could never rock a Russian loadout unless i picked up the KTW Mosin or maybe Ares PPSH-41. I now hate arisoft AK's, to many dang screws lol! Also i'm for Deutschland. tongue

amen to that. i wish simpler take down versions that didn't break the bank were availalbe Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Tue May 25, 2010 7:01 pm

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We've got a hammer AND a scythe!

Nyet, comrade, a hammer and SICKLE. Very slight difference, only stupid capitalist American get wrong.

I'm part German, but I can pull off a Russian accent that has been called "okay" by someone from Russia. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Tue May 25, 2010 8:03 pm

I have practiced my Russian accent so much that telemarketors actually believe im a Ruskie.....Plus my girlfriend LOVES when I use my crazy accents especially the Russian one HEHE cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Tue May 25, 2010 8:12 pm

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I have practiced my Russian accent so much that telemarketors actually believe im a Ruskie.....Plus my girlfriend LOVES when I use my crazy accents especially the Russian one HEHE cheers

Ummm...not going to comment although I sooooo want to.
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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Tue May 25, 2010 8:15 pm

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I have practiced my Russian accent so much that telemarketors actually believe im a Ruskie.....Plus my girlfriend LOVES when I use my crazy accents especially the Russian one HEHE


Ummm...not going to comment although I sooooo want to.

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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Tue May 25, 2010 8:20 pm

I like to get on my friend's XBOX live account and piss off people by speaking in a Borat accent, which I can totally pull off, haha/
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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Tue May 25, 2010 8:45 pm

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I like to get on my friend's XBOX live account and piss off people by speaking in a Borat accent, which I can totally pull off, haha/

I do that with my Russian one. Seems to piss off British people a lot more than anyone else, for some reason.
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PostSubject: Re: Forum turning Red?   Tue May 25, 2010 9:13 pm

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Jarhead999 76 65 wrote:
I like to get on my friend's XBOX live account and piss off people by speaking in a Borat accent, which I can totally pull off, haha/

I do that with my Russian one. Seems to piss off British people a lot more than anyone else, for some reason.
I get on my ps3, turn the voice changer on high and scream at people. It's fun.
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