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PostSubject: A Military Future?   Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:58 pm

all right.... here's a simple debate forum.....
1) should airsoft and paintball be used to train military personnel?
2) why?
3) what does it teach our military? i.e.: what's the point? we can do just as well with rubber or foam bullets, and we're covered in body armor anyways, so why use something that doesn't hurt? Suspect

Reasoning: Paintball and Airsoft is a [u]sport[/u] it is a way to have fun, not train people that will be defending our country's freedom. my ruling: NO. it should not be used for military training for the above reasons.

Please keep it clean, gentlemen.


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PostSubject: Re: A Military Future?   Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:01 pm

1) No.
2) Simunition/soap rounds have more "realistic" ballistic characteristics and can be used with a GI's issue firearm.
3) Weapon control in extreme close quarters mockups (where simunition would be too dangerous to train with).

Fun fact: There are actually no legal restrictions on civilians using simunition! The only thing stopping us from playing with simunition rather than airsoft is the manufacturers refuse to sell to non-agency customers. I'd be simming if I could get my hands on em!
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PostSubject: Re: A Military Future?   Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:50 pm

Agree with Durkee 100%
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PostSubject: Re: A Military Future?   Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:31 pm

1:Yes
2: Much Cheaper alternative to simunition, especially for MOUT/CQB scenario's. Same cost as a rubber ducky.
3: Proper CQB techniques and realistic weight. These measures are already in limited coarse at a few MOUT training facilities such as Ft Silk.

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PostSubject: Re: A Military Future?   Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:38 pm

I have something to say.

A Systema brand M4 Professional Training Weapon, the famous airsoft gun that is "popular" in LE agencies, costs up to $500 more than a Bushmaster AR carbine. WHICH IS A REAL GUN.
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PostSubject: Re: A Military Future?   Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:20 pm

shouldnt this be in the lounge or something?

...airsoft is a much cheaper milsim than simammo. and much easier to clean than blanks
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PostSubject: Re: A Military Future?   Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:53 pm

Sanguinary Angel wrote:
and much easier to clean than blanks

The trainees should learn how to clean their rifles.
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PostSubject: Re: A Military Future?   Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:49 pm

cleaning your rifles from blank rounds and regular ones are so much different. If you knew the difference you would understand
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PostSubject: Re: A Military Future?   Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:47 pm

This topic is a bit old but I feel I have to throw this out..Long time ago I listened to a airsoft podcast thing called dead rag radio..or red rag I forget, but one of the guys they interviewed was designing some sort of system that used infrared lasers ( I think) to design a a high tech laser tag. The thing could only shoot with a magazine in it, they also had realistic number of rounds. A build in computer would keep track of how many shots were left in the thing.

This was done however e planned to add somthing that would calculate realistic balistic patterns, eg drop rate windage and such. Be pretty cool when it becoumes publicly available at a reseanonable price.
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PostSubject: Re: A Military Future?   Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:52 pm

I would agree with Zane on that one.

Airsoft is just the means to "mil-sim"...if there was something more realistic, more practical, and safer on the market that still had the "cool factor", I would be the first to step over to it and accept it a superior to the airsoft system.

Military simulation is military simulation, with or without BB's or paint.
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