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PostSubject: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:43 am

Hey guys, I played airsoft with a group of people. Each one of them wears a ranking insignia on acu's, and also SF and airborne patches also..
Other patches too that I can not remember at this time.
I was wondering what your all opinions are on people wearing these things during airsoft? I had quite a long drawn out chat over facebook with one of the persons that was doing this.





I for one highly disagree with what this kid is doing.
If you are going to play airsoft, play airsoft.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:49 am

Simply put, if you didn't earn it then don't wear it.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:13 am

Personally, i have to agree with you, wearing unit patches and the likes when you didn't earn them is wrong and disrespectful to those who have. But not everyone thinks the same way and they may think it's ok and yet still not come off as disrespectful. I don't know, i can kinda see their reason but still i think it's wrong.

As to wearing rank insignia i'm less picky. If you're part of a large team with a command structure wearing some form of rank ID makes sense.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:19 am

That's a negative, ghostrider...

Don't wear em if you didn't earn em. That goes for rank...awards...military emblems...unit patches...etc.
As you said...if you're going to play airsoft...play f*cking airsoft! This isn't a beauty pageant.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:40 am

Thank you all =]
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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:58 am

Major disrespect to those who truly earned them doing real duties. Don't wear "US ARMY" if have no intention of stepping into a recruiter's office and signing your name. Don't wear EGAs all over your loadout just because you use MARPAT. Don't sew on three stripes just because you're a squad leader. AND DON'T FCUKING WEAR A SPECIAL FORCES PATCH JUST BECAUSE YOUR TEAM THINKS THEY'RE 1337 or any affiliation patch/insignia/badge for that matter.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:06 am

DrummerBoyz95 wrote:
Major disrespect to those who truly earned them doing real duties. Don't wear "US ARMY" if have no intention of stepping into a recruiter's office and signing your name. Don't wear EGAs all over your loadout just because you use MARPAT. Don't sew on three stripes just because you're a squad leader. AND DON'T FCUKING WEAR A SPECIAL FORCES PATCH JUST BECAUSE YOUR TEAM THINKS THEY'RE 1337 or any affiliation patch/insignia/badge for that matter.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:22 am

How about we sort this out for a minute,

Unit Patches, A service member is not awarded a unit patch, they are assigned there, it is part of their uniform, that also goes for SF, Rangers and the Airborne, in each you have NON-Quals that wear the unit patch, be it the Scroll, SpearHead, Double Deuce, Screaming Eagle ect.......

The Tabs are awarded, and there are only 3 in the U.S. Army, Ranger, Special Forces or the Presidents 100, all others are part of the unit designator.

Special Skills,
Marksmanship, Pathfinder, EIB, CIB, Master Blaster, EOD, Scuba, Jump Wings, Air Assault, ect....
All Special Skills Identifiers that the servicemember has earned through completion of schooling.

HeadGear,

Berets, Flashes, Unit Crests
Again part of a Specific units uniform, though some have special regulations regarding the wear of the Headgear, Example.....
Non-Quals in Socom are required to wear the Beret, but to designate them as Non-Qualified, they are not allowed to wear the Flash behind the unit crest.

So BTT, Players wearing unit insignias, awards, rank, SQI´s on their uniform have a place in the AS Community, so long as they are re-enactors, other than that, I personaly find it insulting, but we live in a fre society ( nice thought ), so if a players wants to openly demostrate their ignorance, please by all means, go right ahead, but be prepared for the amount of flack that you are going to catch.

Something to consider for all the Patch Hungry players, when a Team or Club starts establishing a value system for Rank, Awards, Special Qualifications, the a flirting very close with being viewed as a Paramilitary Orginization, which of course brings them into conflict with the Patriot Act, donb´t think any of us would like to start messing around with the MIB when they come knocking at three in the morning.

On a side note of which I just got reminded, there are cases where players wear some Unit Identifiers and Awards out of Respect, Pride and Honor.

My Daughter has some of my original awards on her Uniform, she wears them out of Pride, yes she does catch som crap every now and then, and her answer is always the same, `They are from my Dads time in the Military, if you have a problem with it, go talk to him, he is right over there. ´
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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:00 pm

Spl. Durkee wrote:
That's a negative, ghostrider...

Don't wear em if you didn't earn em. That goes for rank...awards...military emblems...unit patches...etc.
As you said...if you're going to play airsoft...play f*cking airsoft! This isn't a beauty pageant.
Agreed, agreed, and again... agreed.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:35 pm

why is the guy with the AK sagging in his ACU's? This is why it can be disrespectful...

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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:55 pm

Because his pants are storing his stash of tactical bullshit! Duh
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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:13 am

Looks as if they are unbuttoned/belted.... But yes this pissed me off quite alot, especially his responses to what I said.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:50 pm

Well whenever I see someone wearing a rank. I try so hard to refrain from punching them in the face (unless of course they earned it~)
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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:07 pm

NoNeed2Hate wrote:
Well whenever I see someone wearing a rank. I try so hard to refrain from punching them in the face (unless of course they earned it~)
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I also hate those kiddie teams with military structure...that feel the need to go around calling each other "sir" and "captain" and "general"...that's just...man that's embarrassing.
Play some \"Watch your language\" airsoft and shut your mouth, your time to salute, shoot, and stab will come when Uncle Sam needs you!
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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:48 am

I'm about 6 months late on this, but I ran across this and was so mad I had to sign-up and join just to post on this. Assigned to a unit or not, whatever the reason might be, if you enlisted or were commissioned, if you served with the unit or support units, supply, and wore that patch and rank, trust me, you earned it. The simple fact you stood up and volunteered for service means all of that is earned, not fricking "given" to you like Corky the airsoft lawyer tried to state before. I don't care about the technical language associated with it. If you wear it during service, you earned it. I play all the time and I typically don't use any of my old patches and rank, because it's make-believe and I'm not out there to puff out my chest, I'm there to enjoy myself. One of the few times I did wear a full set someone tried to call me out, so I just presented my ID card and VA card because I do receive benefits for injuries I receive in the line of duty. He turned very pale, and simple walked off. My rank and unit aren't important in this whole mess, the point is, if you didn't put in work, make that sacrifice and think that things are a given, we can talk later. It's disgusting to wear rank, unit, squadron, ODA's, wing, command, even service branch insignia if you did not earn it or were "assigned" to them. Yes, you earn badges, blah, blah, blah. You also earn the right to wear that uniform. If I was to find out someone out on the field was wearing them, and didn't serve, or wasn't "assigned", it wouldn't be violence I would use, that's just a waste of time and cliche, it's the power of the spoken word from someone who has experienced some very hard times and very proud times. He can take all of his PURCHASED gear home, take a cold shower and ball-up in the corner to wash the truth away, but no matter how hard he wishes, that airsoft isn't going to fire a 12.7mm x 99mm round, no RDX, no RPK's coming for him and he's just Mr., not SSGT or COL. - sucks to be him. Jack wagon.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:06 am

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I'm about 6 months late on this, but I ran across this and was so mad I had to sign-up and join just to post on this. Assigned to a unit or not, whatever the reason might be, if you enlisted or were commissioned, if you served with the unit or support units, supply, and wore that patch and rank, trust me, you earned it. The simple fact you stood up and volunteered for service means all of that is earned, not fricking "given" to you like Corky the airsoft lawyer tried to state before. I don't care about the technical language associated with it. If you wear it during service, you earned it. I play all the time and I typically don't use any of my old patches and rank, because it's make-believe and I'm not out there to puff out my chest, I'm there to enjoy myself. One of the few times I did wear a full set someone tried to call me out, so I just presented my ID card and VA card because I do receive benefits for injuries I receive in the line of duty. He turned very pale, and simple walked off. My rank and unit aren't important in this whole mess, the point is, if you didn't put in work, make that sacrifice and think that things are a given, we can talk later. It's disgusting to wear rank, unit, squadron, ODA's, wing, command, even service branch insignia if you did not earn it or were "assigned" to them. Yes, you earn badges, blah, blah, blah. You also earn the right to wear that uniform. If I was to find out someone out on the field was wearing them, and didn't serve, or wasn't "assigned", it wouldn't be violence I would use, that's just a waste of time and cliche, it's the power of the spoken word from someone who has experienced some very hard times and very proud times. He can take all of his PURCHASED gear home, take a cold shower and ball-up in the corner to wash the truth away, but no matter how hard he wishes, that airsoft isn't going to fire a 12.7mm x 99mm round, no RDX, no RPK's coming for him and he's just Mr., not SSGT or COL. - sucks to be him. Jack wagon.
Ah. Alrighty then.

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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:12 am

I'm okay now, just didn't like the waste water treatment facility accountant who takes airsoft serious image and lost it for a second, I'm okay, no casualties to report. I did say no violence, but what if I flicked his nose real hard, looked mad and used PG-13 language in his general direction?
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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:26 am

I don't smoke herb, just people. I'm not sure you can translate "stoned" well in Arabic/Urdu. There is a universal understanding of puffin' and if that isn't diplomacy, we're screwed.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:48 am

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I don't smoke herb, just people. I'm not sure you can translate "stoned" well in Arabic/Urdu. There is a universal understanding of puffin' and if that isn't diplomacy, we're screwed.
Ah. Ok. Thanks for sharing.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:24 pm

Kleiner Fuchs wrote:
I'm okay now, just didn't like the waste water treatment facility accountant who takes airsoft serious image and lost it for a second, I'm okay, no casualties to report. I did say no violence, but what if I flicked his nose real hard, looked mad and used PG-13 language in his general direction?

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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:14 pm

I've got an old "special forces" WWII OD shirt. It has a PFC and SF insignia on it. I bought it for airsoft, think this is disrespectful? I am in no way trying to say that i'm in the military, I just liked the old WWII look. Is it the same as wearing modern uniform patches/badges?
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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:20 pm

"I've got an old "special forces" WWII OD shirt. It has a PFC and SF insignia on it. I bought it for airsoft, think this is disrespectful? I am in no way trying to say that i'm in the military, I just liked the old WWII look. Is it the same as wearing modern uniform patches/badges?"

Mixed feelings on that, but I see that more out of respect of a historical period of conflict. The problem with the modern stuff is many of the people I've ran into would like you to believe that they are everything that uniform represents. Rock the uniform man!!
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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:34 pm

Mixed feelings on that, but I see that more out of respect of a historical period of conflict. The problem with the modern stuff is many of the people I've ran into would like you to believe that they are everything that uniform represents. Rock the uniform man!! [/quote]

Thanks, and I totally agree. They shouldn't wear the uniform if they didn't make it through Boot Camp/Basic, and they definitely shouldn't wear any patches if it's completely false and they did not earn it. And Thank you for your service.
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PostSubject: Re: Should Civilians wear Army Uniform patches/badges?   Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:50 am

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