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PostSubject: WE M14 and WE M1911   Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:20 pm

Hello, I was wondering if you guys had any reviews of these two guns. Would you recommend one of these guns or both or would you guys recommend another gun or guns? Note: I am thinking about getting to WW II reenactments since it seems pretty interesting to me and disregard my other posts about the modern soldier look, etc. Also, is there any good places in Missouri to find some WW II gear? Thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:52 pm

Aye, now you're glad you didn't have your account deleted.

Here, let me help you.
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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:22 pm

Yes, I am glad I didn't delete it.
Oh and why thank you good sir for that google search. It helped me a lot. *sarcasm* Razz
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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:38 pm

It's more information than you seem to be capable of using...

How about this. It's the results of the Google search. Can you handle that?

http://www.columbustacticalrec.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=gbbr&action=display&thread=299
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=108733
http://www.softairstrike.com/2011/01/review-we-m14-gbbr-sponsored-by-d-gear-se/

http://www.ampair.net/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?11766
http://www.airsoftforum.com/board/Tech-1911-Meu-Review-t143596.html&p=17980013
http://www.justpistols.co.uk/we1911c.htm
http://www.airsoftretreat.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=201

There's only like 50 active members of this forum, and that number is generous. Expand your horizon and look elsewhere


And FYI if you want WWII reenactment, don't get an M14 unless you want to mod the magazines to make it look more like an M1 Garand.
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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:03 am

I have seen most of these reviews, but I will look over the again to see if I see any new information I missed. The M14 will have a M1 Garand conversion kit available from RA-Tech as soon as possible. If not I could use it for Vietnam reenactments, even though it is frowned upon. I could look elsewhere as in airsoftforum.com if you really like me that much if that is what you are trying to say.
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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:37 am

don't mean to be off topic, but drummer.... you don't have to go around be a Dbag to the poor fellow. All he is doing is asking for help. He is using the forum for what is should be used for. If he wanted to delete his account so be it, but there is no need to hate nor no need to hold a grudge..... seriously.

back on topic. Don't even deal with the WE 1911s, they are crap. The slides are heavy so they are not at all Gas efficient. I would go with a KJW which is much much better than WE.

Were you shooting for a ww1/2 period 1911? or a modern version hi capa bs?!
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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:49 am

I have a team-mate who has a WE M14, and he loves it. As far as I know, it has not had any problems. It has a hard kick, looks great, and is scary as HE||. I used to own the 1911, and it is worthless.
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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:29 am

Ok, I will being shooting for the WW II period. I have looked at reviews on the WE M1911, and I haven't seen anything saying it was horrible. I looked at the KJW and WE and they seem like they have almost the same reviews over them, other than the fact some people hate WE. Also, not to be picky, but the KJW is uglllyyy compared to the WE one. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:55 pm

Looks compared to quality shouldn't determine the best pistol Razz of course you could save some more money and go for a TM 1911. they are awesome with their plastic slides. very effective.
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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Sun Feb 27, 2011 4:53 pm

Sorry, I hate plastic even thought it is high quality plastic I still hate it. I like the look and feel of metal and it is pretty hard to choose between KJW, KWA, and WE. Also, I talked with a reenacter and he said the M14 wasn't used in WW II so I would have to buy a M1 Garand conversion kit whenever they are available. I could get a Marushin M1 Garand or go with a real M1 Garand for all that matters.
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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:32 pm

Well I could have told you that... Laughing
All that M1 stuff you're talking about is pretty darn expensive, and....probably won't happen.
Why not just buy yourself a Thompson? Cheap, easy to find, and one Heck of a gun. Will never let you down.
We 1911: looks scarily close to the original 1911, but performs like poop. Mine gets 8 shots on one fill of gas Cool I use it mainly for looks.

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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:51 pm

Ok, well one real M1 Garand is about $1000 that fires and dummy M1 Garand is about $300 which is pretty boring to me. I wish I could get a Thompson, but I don't see a gas blowback Thompson because I want realism for reenacting and I have no clue how much RA-Tech will charge for a M1 Garand conversion kit. So, what about the KJW or KWA M1911?
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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:10 pm

All of KWA's GBB pistols are top of the line. Any one you choose, you will not be dissatisfied.

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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:08 pm

Alright, I was wondering which one looked more realistic the KJW M1911 or KWA M1911 and the KWA M1911 says it is discontinued. Also, how much do you think a conversion kit to the M1 would cost from RA-Tech?
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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:27 pm

I love my KJW 1911. It's set to double stack normally which isn't a standard for government issue but better in my opinion. And i'd just forget about the M1 dude. I'd suggest just getting an electric Thompson and get low caps. Weight your mags appropriately to the real thing and its good for realism.
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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:31 pm

Sorry, I hate electric guns it is like taking fingernails to a chalkboard for me. Maybe if they came out with a gas Thompson I would get it for now it is the WE M14 for me. I like both the KJW M1911 and KWA M1911, but the KWA seems like it would be more gas efficient, but it is more expensive, has ugly trades, and a huge orange tip.
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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:34 pm

don\'t get an M-14 and "convert" it to an M1 Grand. It's not possible. The M-14 uses a Magazine whereas the M1 Grand is Clip fed. So you wouldnt even convert it properly. Seriously, you'd look horrible. If you want to, spend your money on some of the 8mm replicas. They have both the M1 Grand and M1 Carbine models available.
If you really want to do it right, get a Tompson, or go Axis. I have noticed numerous MP-40s and MP-44s.
Ive also noticed a couple releases of PPSH's, so if you want to spend a little more money (like, 300 more on a replica, but less on a "uniform") You could go russian. Most of the war they wore a lot of civilian clothes due to lack of supplies.
Oh, and there's nothing wrong with AEGs at all. They end up being much much cheeper, reliable, and sometimes more realistic in the long run.
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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:41 pm

Well, the conversion kit has a whole different feeding system than the M14 and a different barrel, etc. Also, I have already bought some 0.25g 6mm BBs I need to use and I 6mm BBs are more accessable. I still hate AEGs you would have to explain to me a lot of pros and cons of AEGs vs gas guns to convince me to like them. (Probably a seperate post perhaps?) Razz
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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:51 pm

The cons and pros of Gas vs. AEGs:

GAS
Pros-
-High FPS
-Loud
-Often made of metal

Cons-
-Expensive
-Needs constant gas
-High FPS
-Loud
-Heavy
-Often made out of cheap metal
-Parts can be expensive
-Internals can be complex
-Magazines are expensive
-Needs to be maintained to keep running properly
-Gas can be corrosive

AEGs
Pros-
-Cheap
-Lighter
-Internals are readily available
-Runs on a battery
-Can produce both high and low FPS
-Quieter
-Parts will not waredown as easy
-Easily upgradable
-Magazines are cheap

Cons:
-Quiet
-Batteries can be expensive (But reusable)
-Usually lower FPS
-Battery must be on/in the replica (Sometimes a PEQ box must be used)

Thats all I can think of, but please, add some.
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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:54 pm

alexkmmll wrote:
The cons and pros of Gas vs. AEGs:

GAS
Pros-
-High FPS
-Loud
-Often made of metal

Cons-
-Expensive
-Needs constant gas
-High FPS
-Loud
-Heavy
-Often made out of cheap metal
-Parts can be expensive
-Internals can be complex
-Magazines are expensive
-Needs to be maintained to keep running properly
-Gas can be corrosive
-INCONSISTENT
-Most models do not all for FPS adjustment


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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:09 am

Alright, so which one has a double stack magazine like the real M1911: the KJW M1911, the KWA M1911 or the WE M1911? Also, the cons of gas blowback guns doesn't really make me want it any less. Also, you can get an upgrade to adjust FPS, but I wouldn't need to. Finally, electric guns can be somewhat loud if they arn't made right and you always have to have a battery in them instead of easily putting gas in the magazine which you can carry on you in a battle like batteries, but batteries take longer to put in your gun. So far, I haven't taken any electronics / electricity classes so the internals on the gas blowback guns would be easier for me to work with.
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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:22 pm

You don't need to be a scientist to work on an AEG...


Ojtiger57 wrote:
Alright, so which one has a double stack magazine like the real M1911: the KJW M1911, the KWA M1911 or the WE M1911?
If it's a WW2 style 1911 you want, it will need to be single stack, not double stack. KJW, KWA, and WE all include single stack magazines.
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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:03 pm

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Finally, electric guns can be somewhat loud if they arn't made right and you always have to have a battery in them instead of easily putting gas in the magazine which you can carry on you in a battle like batteries, but batteries take longer to put in your gun. So far, I haven't taken any electronics / electricity classes so the internals on the gas blowback guns would be easier for me to work with.

Ok mate, lets get serious here. You had your mind made up on getting a gas blowback rifle even before starting this thread, we all see this...it's obvious. Every logical argument we've presented against your inherent NEED to buy a GBB-R has been brushed off. You're starting to look like one of those "As Seen on TV" commercials...where they take something and make it seem harder than it really is (seriously though, I don't remember the last time that a kitchen sponge frustrated me).

"But I haz to put teh batteries in it! OMG SO MUCH WORK! Ey don\'t know eleeeectrical stuff, dey r magic, no? I do not know magics!!! Maybeh gas r easier?"
NOPE. Much...much...harder.

...You've gotten factual statements here from people that own gas blowbacks, have owned gas blowbacks, have friends that have owned gas blowbacks, or have done research into gas products. Do you honestly think we're sitting behind our computers snickering and hoping we can "trick" you into buying an electric gun because they suck? LOL

The core statement: GAS BLOWBACK PRODUCTS, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, DO NOT MEET THE STANDARDS REQUIRED TO MAKE THEM SUPERIOR TO ELECTRIC SYSTEMS. Plain and simple.

I suggest you take our advice and get an AEG. Or ignore fact and make mistakes! Your call.

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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:27 pm

Sorry Drummer it was a typo. Also, I forgot to mention that I will need some loud sound that sounds atleast alittle bit like a gun shot for the WW II reenactments and the expelled gas could make it look like a gun shot or just a cool factor. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: WE M14 and WE M1911   Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:50 pm

Ojtiger57 wrote:
Sorry Drummer it was a typo. Also, I forgot to mention that I will need some loud sound that sounds atleast alittle bit like a gun shot for the WW II reenactments and the expelled gas could make it look like a gun shot or just a cool factor. Smile




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