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|  Subject: Re: Psychology predispostions in airsoft.  Fri May 02, 2008 6:56 pm | |
| | Admin wrote: | | Ace wrote: | So, Admin are #2 people useful or not? All of you guys say they are annoying during game play, and then you say he can be useful? Just a little confused.
Is anyone up for a #1.5? Large game play experience or not, if someone is charging at you and you are trying to be tactical, don't you have to switch to aggressive mode not to get lit up? I think a good mixture of both would be key. Learn to be aggressive AND patient.
As far as not communicating with #2 people I agree, but I have also played with #1 people who don't communicate, so aren't they just as useless to the team?
*red emphasis was done by Admin |
I'm up for a 1.5 definitely.
But a #2 can be useful and annoying at the same time... why couldn't they? And I was saying that they typically are useless, but at times, if you can control their lack of patience/wrecklessness long enough to get them to go where you want them to and when you want them to, then they can be used a distraction or to weaken an enemy encampment. But I'd rather have a bunch of 1.5s and 1s.
I think the real problem with #2 comes down to the lack of teamwork. It needs to be clarified whether #2 has his whole squad also acting as #2s, or if he's just running and gunning on his own, with disregard to his team. Because my impression was #2 is the guy who during events:
1 - doesn't usually listen to orders well
2 - all he thinks about is getting his next kill
3 - usually the guy who runs out in front of everyone while yelling and spraying random shots
4 - is overly aggressive and finds himself among too many opponents at once
5 - when in a squad, he's the guy who is extremely "antsy," is rushing the group along, and is constantly trying to convince the squad leader to do what he wants to do (which is almost always ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK!)
BUT, if you have a #2, who's very tactical, and is a great team player who takes orders well, and is with a group of other players who are like him as well, they all just happen to be fairly aggressive/swift, then heck yeah they'll be effective. Just like a group of #1s who all are like-minded will do well together. Just sometimes there will be a problem when #1s and #2s mix.
And also, in response to your comment I highlighted in red, I would say if someone's charging you, aggressive mode most likely won't be an effective answer. I mean I think back to all our practices (team juggernauts) and even in your case Ace, when someone's attacking you (we all) do one of two things:
1 - dig in and set up a defensive position to fend off the attack.
or
2 - tactically retreat back to a better position where you can put up a better fight.
I don't remember any instances where any one of us are having someone charge at us while firing on us and us decide that the smart thing to do would be to turn around and move in on them (being aggressive). That'd be suicide. If you're being charged, I'd say you'd never want to be aggressive with them, unless your definition of being aggressive simply means returning lots of fire (which is a given). If you happen to turn the tables through your initial defensive response, and suddenly they're on the retreat, then heck yeah you should be aggressive - get'em on the run!! 
Oh yeah, and good point about #1s who don't communicate as well too. There are plenty of those as well (and I'd say they're almost useless too) |
I guess "aggressive" was not what I meant. What I mean is your tactical mentality changes when someone is charging at you. You have to be quicker with your decisions to get in the best possible position to defend yourself. Does that sound better? |
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| | Subject: Re: Psychology predispostions in airsoft. Sat May 03, 2008 1:27 am | |
| | Ace wrote: |
I guess "aggressive" was not what I meant. What I mean is your tactical mentality changes when someone is charging at you. You have to be quicker with your decisions to get in the best possible position to defend yourself. Does that sound better? |
Yeah, sorry about that.  I'm sometimes terrible at understanding what people mean online. Anyway, I do agree with that statement. I constantly have to change my style of play (from extreme #1 to extreme #2 and everything in between those) in order to react the different situations I'm in - esp. while being charged. Those that can't adapt won't last too long
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