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PostSubject: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 15, 2009 4:18 pm

I have two options for my next rifle, the KJW M700, Or the JG Bar 10. My main problem with the M700 is the fact that its mags only hold 10 rounds each, and that each mag is $39.95. My only problem with the bar 10 is that it might not have the power or accuracy for my needs. Any suggestions? And if neither of these are suitable, it would be great if you could suggest a sniper rifle for $215 max. Thanks!


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http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=4190

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=154_157&products_id=1449
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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 15, 2009 4:32 pm

What you need to understand with round capacity on a sniper rifle; You won't be shooting a massive number of "bullets" at your enemy. As a sniper you will be taking deadly yet accurate shots, so range/accuracy is more important than round capacity, so from the two guns you have selected I suggest the KJW M700, and that is my personal choice for you.

A particular type of rifle that I like is the TSD L96: http://www.pyramidairsoft.com/ProductDetails1.aspx?productID=1608&referer=530

Although I think you'll be fine with the KJW M700
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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 15, 2009 5:31 pm

I see your point, but I play DM very often, and we play in cold weather a lot, so a gas rifle that can only hold 10 rounds may be at a disadvantage. any other opinions?
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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 15, 2009 5:34 pm

Well, the TSD L96 should be a spring rifle (Which is what I use actually). I haven't upgraded it or anything yet, but a few modifications and a higher grade BB, maybe .28+ and I think you will have a good sniper rifle.

Plus because it is spring you won't have to worry about paying for expensive gases over and over again. I believe they quote that it holds 25 rounds, but it holds 23 actually.
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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 15, 2009 6:38 pm

that sounds good, but I might just go with the bar 10.
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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 15, 2009 7:38 pm

ahh the bar 10 i say you get a UTG M324 accurate nicely built inexpensive and an all around good gun
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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeSun Feb 15, 2009 10:06 pm

that is what I currently have. I am looking for a step up.
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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 16, 2009 12:17 am

I have a TM G-Spec(Bar10 is a clone of the TM), I will say when I'm more mobile(like shadowing a squad or DMing), the 30 rounds per mag can go very quickly.

Honestly if you plan on DMing more but maybe transitioning to a Sniper, grab yourself a good looking DMR. If you plan on transitioning to a Sniper down the road, you still have a full blown Sniper rifle. Sometimes I really wish I was using my TM M4 when I snipe because there is always a need for a quick follow up shot.

I'm sure you will find some really good reviews/articles on different DMR's on this site if you look.

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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 16, 2009 11:38 am

ah yes but the bar is junk out of the box. utg? not so much i know a sniper who has a TM g spec its nice
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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 16, 2009 12:32 pm

well, what would you suggest for a DMR that is $200 max?
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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 16, 2009 12:40 pm

sorry for double posting, but I actually am looking for more of a sniper rifle than a DM rifle.the JG bar 10 seems to be a good choice, but now you have me thinking. What other good rifles would be in my price range? any opinions?
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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 16, 2009 2:00 pm

Well some good DMR's/Sniper rifles would be something like any M14 rifle, any M16 styled DMR, the A&K SR25, a modded G36, and G3 styled guns.

The G3 is probably the cheapest to mod to a DMR(just slap a scope on it), but the ARMY is phasing the KAC M110(SR25, with a different RAS), so the SR25 would be the most realistic of the lot if you were playing as a US team. You can get cheap versions of all the guns I mentioned above.

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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 16, 2009 2:45 pm

I know I sound like a broken record but: http://www.pyramidairsoft.com/ProductDetails1.aspx?productID=1608&referer=510

I personally like this as a sniper rifle over all the others.
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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 16, 2009 3:55 pm

Get a a&k sr25. Those things have so many good reviews on asr it isn't even funny.
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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 16, 2009 4:21 pm

those are all good suggestions, but I like the look of standard rifles more. in other words, bolt action rifles. AFU, I might look into that L96, otherwise the Bar 10 would be my choice.
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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 16, 2009 4:30 pm

You can also look at this
http://www.airsoftatlanta.com/images/vsr10_r_shock_jpg.jpg

It can be found here

http://www.airsoftatlanta.com/rifle.htm

According to its stats, it only shoots at 280 fps before upgrades, but it offers all the upgrades there with it, as well as more mags, etc. It almost looks like the remington 700, which was a hunting gun actually, but was also the gun carlos hathcock used in vietnam.
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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 16, 2009 10:12 pm

I would suggest the M700, but not if your'e playing in cold weather. L96 is great, the bar 10 can be something really good I hear with a little work. However I wouldn't go with a UTG M324...not the greatest rifle in accuracy or power. I would go with one of the first two. Our team sniper should have a M700 coming his way very soon, I'll report back on that when I see it.
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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeMon Feb 16, 2009 10:59 pm

Well if you don't get an AEG, then my personal vote goes too the BAR. With $30 worth of sears and a new spring it can shoot harder than an L98(and you will save some money for high quality BB's).

But honestly 400FPS is not that bad for sniping. I get around 200+ft accurately with my G-Spec, and its only shooting in the 380's.

IMO just get what you think looks the best, all the guns mentioned above are great for starting.

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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeTue Feb 17, 2009 7:15 pm

well, at this point, I'm not really gonna get the M700, I now have replaced that with a UTG MK96. so now the Question is: BAR 10 G-spec or MK96?
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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeWed Feb 18, 2009 11:17 am

my M324 is nice accurate and shooting 450 and max range ive ever hit someone was 200' and it was a center mass shot
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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeWed Feb 18, 2009 11:05 pm

sorry to double post again, but I think I've made my decision. I'm going to go with the bar 10. thanks for the advice guys!
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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeWed Feb 18, 2009 11:12 pm

Just to make sure you are making the right choice. You compared reviews right? and matched up the stats side by side so that you can more easily compare the two, right?
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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeThu Feb 19, 2009 12:09 am

I think he's made a good choice, the bar 10 is the best bang for the buck, has a lot of good reviews, easily upgradeable to 500 fps, and if you have any problems with it you could post your problems on the site you got it from, here, or anywhere else because it's a famous gun and many people have it.

I found on hitguns a while ago that they're selling a bar 10 combo for $130.00 http://www.hitguns.com/JG-BAR-10-G-Spec-w-Silencer-Airsoft-Sniper-Rifle-p/jg-367a-bar10-g-scope.htm It looks pretty good and you should have extra money for magazines if you had $210.00 zoned for a sniper.

P.S. If you order from hitguns make sure you have a good understanding of the bar 10 and are sure you would like to buy it, because hitguns has a "all sales are final policies."
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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeThu Feb 19, 2009 1:20 am

I use the bar 10 and i love it, if you get the scope sighted in right,
I can hit my practice target 4/5 times however with .2's it seems like the BB gets carried away very easy on semi windy days, however my thompson fires fine in semi windy days whats up with that? (sorry for asking this here >.>)
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PostSubject: Re: M700 vs BAR 10   M700 vs BAR 10 Icon_minitimeThu Feb 19, 2009 8:01 pm

did you upgrade the jg bar 10?
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