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Spl. Durkee General Grade 2
Posts : 4652 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 66
| Subject: Entry tactics. HELP! Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:06 pm | |
| Ok so at my local field there is a CQB portion made up of big ol' shipping containers. So what are your thoughts on entry/clearing tactics with a 3-4 man team into a shipping container holding 2-3 enemy infantry armed with standard infantry weapons: M4, AK series, G36, etc. (The entry team will generally be armed with the same). A marksman team can be in order to take shots through the 2 windows (marked blue) pending situation. Key: Window- Blue Door- Black (Note that the drawing is not to scale) | |
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Lone Wolf General
Posts : 2551 Join date : 2008-07-03 Age : 32 Location : Marietta, GA
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:22 pm | |
| It depends on WHERE the defenders are. If they are smart, they will have formed a defensive position around the door away from windows. | |
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Spl. Durkee General Grade 2
Posts : 4652 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 66
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:29 pm | |
| I see. Well could you set up some situations for me and show different tactics for each. Anyone? | |
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Lone Wolf General
Posts : 2551 Join date : 2008-07-03 Age : 32 Location : Marietta, GA
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:33 pm | |
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Spl. Durkee General Grade 2
Posts : 4652 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 66
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:43 pm | |
| ok cool. Anyone else have some ideas for a general room clearing of a cargo container? | |
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Lone Wolf General
Posts : 2551 Join date : 2008-07-03 Age : 32 Location : Marietta, GA
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:48 pm | |
| which way does the door open? outside/inside? | |
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Spl. Durkee General Grade 2
Posts : 4652 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 66
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:52 pm | |
| It is an openning, not a door. Sorry for the mislabeling. | |
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Satan Major
Posts : 759 Join date : 2008-07-20 Age : 29 Location : bucks county PA
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:30 pm | |
| Well a Frag would knock out a few or if you just kept tossing smoke grenades till you smoke em out. | |
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Spl. Durkee General Grade 2
Posts : 4652 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 66
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:13 pm | |
| haha well my squad doesnt use deployable frags, and smoke in that tight a space could be dangerous...so...any other ideas? I really need this. we have a OP coming up and I'm stuck | |
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HoboBob Major
Posts : 836 Join date : 2008-07-13 Location : New Jersey
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:24 pm | |
| You could open the door but not go in and if anyone is right near the door get them and then look around and see if you can find anyone without actually going into the room first. You will probably find one or two people like that then the rest is just doing it SWAT style basically. Also check the windows to try and figure out where people are if you can. | |
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slob212 Moderator
Posts : 1489 Join date : 2008-09-05 Age : 113 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:49 pm | |
| Are you looking for a Forced Entry Plan, or a Deliberate entry plan, Forced Entry is a Speed based Entry technique, ( S.W.A.T. ) Deliberate is a systematic slower entry technique ( Buddy Team Entry ) | |
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Jackofalltrades Corporal
Posts : 181 Join date : 2009-04-18 Age : 33 Location : Washington
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:14 pm | |
| one person moves to the left of the door and keeps his eyes and gun pointed towards the right (inside the "building") the other person does that to the other side. and to be safe have someone back a ways cover straight in (if possible). if you have more people satck them up behind the left and right people. to move in have the stacked up people move in left side moves in and covers left Etc.then when your in move your team in but make sure to watch your exit for an attack. The armies 360 degrees of observation is a good guideline. | |
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Spl. Durkee General Grade 2
Posts : 4652 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 66
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:50 pm | |
| I'm looking for a forced entyry deal slob.
What I'm thinking is have a man with a high ROF CQB weapon on the front window (same side as door) so he can take out any hostiles in the left side of the room while the enrty team stays stacked on the door and works the right side of the structure. I would say casualty expectancy for my squad would be about 1-2 players with this method though
My other idea would be to draw the defenders to the windows somehow and use designated marksmen to take them out through the windows and doorways before the entry team maves in. I dunno, that could be a risky idea too.
Grenades are not an option, nor is smoke. Our field doesnt allow either at the momment. We're trying to petition to get them to let em use it though. My old field closed down cuz of financial issues unfortunately so we're stuck playing at this overpriced and messy paintball park. | |
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slob212 Moderator
Posts : 1489 Join date : 2008-09-05 Age : 113 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:55 am | |
| Entering a Building or structure is always risky Keep in mind Forced entry is a Speed based Tactic, your opponent knows you are there, and is waiting for you. Speed, Violence of Action and overwhelming FirePower are the Keys to ultimate success. Cover all alternate danger areas so that your Breaching team can affect a breech in relative safety, and reduce the danger of anybody else moving against them. If you are not doing a Rescue, or Retrieve game, if it´s in the room it gets a few rounds !!! Breaching Team moves as one element, if possible, Point Man with Ballistic Shield and Pistol. Expect losses, but don´t tolerate them, there is always room for improvement. Attempt to redirect your opponents concentration away from the Point of Entry. | |
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Tank Major
Posts : 842 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 30 Location : Lake Hopatcong, New Jersey
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:46 pm | |
| If i were the "enemy" i'd be in the left corner and on the left side of the wall both able to shoot out both windows and cover the door | |
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white wolf General
Posts : 2481 Join date : 2009-03-29 Location : here, not there, Earth
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:33 am | |
| what I would do is this
have a DM scope the windows and wait untill they are resting/tired than what you do is have the entry team line up next to the door and when the DM gives the go he shoots a guy and the rest of the team storms in | |
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Tank Major
Posts : 842 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 30 Location : Lake Hopatcong, New Jersey
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:41 pm | |
| Well then again why want to enter a room when you could J-DAM IT!!!! | |
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white wolf General
Posts : 2481 Join date : 2009-03-29 Location : here, not there, Earth
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:49 pm | |
| LOL airsoft airforce I like it
f-15 with a airsoft bomb
DOWN DOWN DOWN OUCH time for the ambulance | |
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Tank Major
Posts : 842 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 30 Location : Lake Hopatcong, New Jersey
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:05 pm | |
| That would be completely fair and hey did you figure out that battlefield thing yet? | |
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white wolf General
Posts : 2481 Join date : 2009-03-29 Location : here, not there, Earth
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:35 pm | |
| yeah got it down, just the website stinks and fair wat???? | |
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Tank Major
Posts : 842 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 30 Location : Lake Hopatcong, New Jersey
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:09 pm | |
| Didn't you have a problem with making battlefield 2 working? cause mine won't i downloaded the game, got the icons everything just won't start the game | |
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white wolf General
Posts : 2481 Join date : 2009-03-29 Location : here, not there, Earth
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:13 pm | |
| it was with the complete collection not letting me run the booster packs
you might want to check the EA GAMES website for help | |
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Tank Major
Posts : 842 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 30 Location : Lake Hopatcong, New Jersey
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:15 pm | |
| Yeah i have the complete edition as well what should i do RUN the booster pack? im not sure | |
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white wolf General
Posts : 2481 Join date : 2009-03-29 Location : here, not there, Earth
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:17 pm | |
| well to run the booster packs I don't understand I'll PM you back to topic | |
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Tank Major
Posts : 842 Join date : 2009-04-07 Age : 30 Location : Lake Hopatcong, New Jersey
| Subject: Re: Entry tactics. HELP! Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:19 pm | |
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