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PostSubject: This does not bode well for Airsoft   This does not bode well for Airsoft Icon_minitimeFri May 08, 2009 12:10 pm



BERLIN – Germany's government wants to tighten gun controls and ban combat games such as paint ball after a school shooting that left 16 dead, but victims' relatives said Friday the measures did not go far enough.

Lawmakers from the governing coalition parties said adopting the new measures — including stronger rules for registering and storing guns — would be an appropriate response to the March 11 massacre, in which a 17-year-old high-school graduate gunned down 15 people at his school before killing himself with a pistol taken from his father's bedroom.

The new measures represent a "balanced proposal," said legislator Wolfgang Bosbach of Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservative Christian Democrats.

But relatives of those killed in the attack in Winnenden, near Stuttgart, called for an outright ban on pistols and high-caliber weapons.

"There cannot be a second Winnenden," Hardy Schober said at a news conference Friday. Schober's daughter died in the March 11 massacre.

The gun used by Tim Kretschmer in the shooting had been unsecured, in violation of existing laws, but Kretschmer's father had a permit to own it and belonged to a local gun club.

The government's proposal would require new "biometric" controls for home gun storage, possibly by mandating that safes and locks be deactivated by a registered owner's fingerprint.

It also would ban simulated combat games, including laser tag and paint ball, in which players use infrared sensors or compressed air guns and paint pellets to eliminate each other from play.

Those who defy the proposed ban could be punished with a fine of euro5,000 ($6,700).

Some experts criticized the government's proposal as driven by a political need to look proactive in the wake of the nation's second-worst school shooting, after a 2002 shooting spree in Erfurt that left 17 dead including the gunman.

"It's a prime example of symbolic policies and action," criminologist Thomas Feltes said, adding that banning combat games was unlikely to deter such crimes.

The head of the German Shooting Federation said he worried his group's members would be "unjustifiably compared to common criminals."

"It can't be that, from now on, every district administrative office can come into every home. I protest against the arbitrariness," Josef Ambacher said.

The legislation — drafted by a government panel led by Interior Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble — is scheduled to go before parliament this month, and be put before interior ministers from Germany's 16 states in June.
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PostSubject: Re: This does not bode well for Airsoft   This does not bode well for Airsoft Icon_minitimeFri May 08, 2009 12:36 pm

that sucks for the German AS players. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: This does not bode well for Airsoft   This does not bode well for Airsoft Icon_minitimeFri May 08, 2009 12:51 pm

Actually this only affects the players living in Bavaria, most of the other German states have said that they will not support it, goes to show just how strange the Bavarians are, not one of the past AMOK incidents happened Bavaria.

The punnishment is also misstated,
We face up to a 10,000€ fine and 3 years in Jail for illegal AS guns.
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PostSubject: Re: This does not bode well for Airsoft   This does not bode well for Airsoft Icon_minitimeFri May 08, 2009 5:51 pm

This is the kind of stuff that gives airsoft a bad name. Its people like this that are going to get airsoft banned. If your going to do something stupid like this don't ruin it for the rest of us.
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PostSubject: Re: This does not bode well for Airsoft   This does not bode well for Airsoft Icon_minitimeSat May 09, 2009 1:25 am

It is going to lead to stronger weapons ownership laws, of that I am almost certain, but to an overall Ban on AS weapons, probably not,

At worst it could end up changing the laws so that only persons of Legal age ( 18 ), can buy, own and use AS, Paintball, small caliber weapons. Use of PaintBall, AS weapons would be forbidden inside the boarders of the BRD.

It would be terrible if it came down to something like that, but things are moving in that direction. Who knows, maybe this will all blow over, it´s Election Time here, a lot of Hot Air, little to back it up later.
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PostSubject: Re: This does not bode well for Airsoft   This does not bode well for Airsoft Icon_minitimeSat May 09, 2009 11:21 am

that sucks for germany
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PostSubject: Re: This does not bode well for Airsoft   This does not bode well for Airsoft Icon_minitimeSat May 09, 2009 11:23 am

I WANT TO VENT MY ANGER TO THAT LAW WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE IS THE SAME NW WISCONSIN DECIDED TO GET TIGHT ON AIRSOFTERS ONLY AIRSOFTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

but yeah STINKS DOESN"T IT!
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PostSubject: Re: This does not bode well for Airsoft   This does not bode well for Airsoft Icon_minitimeSat May 09, 2009 12:00 pm

slob212 wrote:
It is going to lead to stronger weapons ownership laws, of that I am almost certain, but to an overall Ban on AS weapons, probably not,

At worst it could end up changing the laws so that only persons of Legal age ( 18 ), can buy, own and use AS, Paintball, small caliber weapons. Use of PaintBall, AS weapons would be forbidden inside the boarders of the BRD.

It would be terrible if it came down to something like that, but things are moving in that direction. Who knows, maybe this will all blow over, it´s Election Time here, a lot of Hot Air, little to back it up later.

Im not saying that AS was going to get banned all thogether becuase of this what I was saying is this dosent help the fact. If things like this keep happening there will be an end to all combat simulated sports/hobbys. And just like everybody else I don't want to see an end to AS. Things like this will continue to happen and AS and other sports alike are going to get blammed along with violent video games and TV shows.
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