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PostSubject: Re: New gun   New gun - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 18, 2009 1:14 am

The crazy thing is that a KWA will last 5 or 6 years...if your lucky and don't shoot over 50000 bbs youl be lucky if the e1 is still kicking in 2011...In the end the kwa might acuatly save you money...plus all the benefits of buying from KWA and having a high end aeg...you 14 get a job dishwashing or busing tables in a resturant...you have the money before you know it....or hold off on the m203 and put all the cash toward KWA and get the m203 in the summer or something
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PostSubject: Re: New gun   New gun - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 18, 2009 2:13 am

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The crazy thing is that a KWA will last 5 or 6 years...if your lucky and don't shoot over 50000 bbs youl be lucky if the e1 is still kicking in 2011...In the end the kwa might acuatly save you money...plus all the benefits of buying from KWA and having a high end aeg...you 14 get a job dishwashing or busing tables in a resturant...you have the money before you know it....or hold off on the m203 and put all the cash toward KWA and get the m203 in the summer or something
actually ur rather right mate in the end ul save more money with the KWA
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The crazy thing is that a KWA will last 5 or 6 years...if your lucky and don't shoot over 50000 bbs youl be lucky if the e1 is still kicking in 2011...In the end the kwa might acuatly save you money...plus all the benefits of buying from KWA and having a high end aeg...you 14 get a job dishwashing or busing tables in a resturant...you have the money before you know it....or hold off on the m203 and put all the cash toward KWA and get the m203 in the summer or something

thanks for the back up sambam2011...

mr JARHEAD.
im no spoiled brat. i work, pay bills and no one buys me crap. if i want something i save up for it. your 14 and the family isn't rich (and most peoples arnt ether)you will be getting a job soon. you can save up if you really want something. here are some specs on the kwa...

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Product Information:
Well after being on Kwausa and talking to the forum admins who...more>>
I would like to say proudly are Radix and Allizard (user names), Radix has helped me a lot to understand this gun inside in out and this review is to give a buyer knowledge of what this gun has inside and out!! This gun is designed for the best performance possible with a V2 gearbox and has the best V2 gearbox shell on the PLANET!!!! I have not recieved this gun as it will arrive in September sadly but I know the specifications since the details do not say them

Internals:
-Version 2 gearbox with a epic uber amount of reinforcement in the front and EVERWHERE and it uses a new kwa 2GX gearbox shell
-Uses 6 9mm ball bearings that are simply indestructable
-Uses
-Contains a fully heat treated sector gear that is 5mm in width (that is .92mm thicker than even Systema torque up gears!!!!)
-Contains heat treated anti-reversal latch
-Contains new piston that is uber reinforced and is also ported and has a heat treated metal plate and the first tooth is uber reinforced and uses new material
-HAS A 2G bucking that is very close in performance to the fire fly bucking
-New improved Hop Up C clip to get way better compression and to prevent air leaks
-Has a 6.05mm =/- .03mm 509mm long barrel
-Super awesome motor
-Reinforced trigger post (already fixed for new updated KM4 and KM16 models for 2009)
-M130 spring

Externals:
-Fiber Reinforced stock
-New HEAT SINC MOTOR PLATE LIKE G&G GUNS
-NEW 1 PIECE OUT BARREL
-Machined 12" SR25 style RAS WITH NO WOBBLE AND" IS STRONG ENOUGH TO STAND ON" (tests performed by Kwa and yes I did typed strong enough to stand on quote from Radix from Kwausa Forums and Radix is a kwa staff member
-Flip Up iron sights
-Laser Ingraved Kwa KM16 SR12 on RAS (not sure if it is)
-Laser Ingraved New Kwa logo and KM16 SR12, Cal. 6mm, and Serial number (might be a special one for each gun)
-Matte Gray/Black gun body that is very VERY nice looking and has a great finish
-New Magazine finish is now gray to match better with new body color and looks like the same color as the G&G high cap mags and the mag is a 350 high cap mag
-Metal nut insert for pistol grip bottom

Performance:
-420 fps with m130 Spring ("results may vary depending on bb and chrono" - Kwa)
-20 rps (1200 rpms) test by Kwa with a 11.1v 1500 mah lipo

Specifications: (straight from Kwa Usa)
Overall Length = 39.5" [100.33 cm]
Outter Barrel Length = 495.3 mm
Barrel thread = 14mm* [Counter clock wise]
Inner Barrel Length = 509 mm
Inner Barrel Diameter = 6.05mm
Magazine Capacity = 350 Rounds Hi-Cap magazine included
Caliber = 6mm Airsoft BB
Velocity = 420+ fps** with .20 gram BB's
Rate of Fire = 20+ rps***
Weight = 6.5 lbs.
Power = 8.4V, 9.6V NiMh Battery, or 7.4V, 11.1V Lithium Polymer or Lithium Manganese Battery [Maximum 11.1 V, 20A continuous]

Special Features: (straight from Kwa Usa)
KWA 2GX Gearbox
KWA 2G High Performance Bucking
Machined, extruded aluminum 12" forend tube with four Picatinny rails
Fiber reinforced full stock with battery compartment
Full metal alloy receivers
Flip up adjustable front and rear sights
Flat top receiver
Free Float Rail Adapter System
Semi and Full Auto selective fire
Adjustable Hop-up
Optimized for range
(One more I feel Kwa Forgot) The Kwa KM16 SR12 looks like Jessica Alba transformed into a gun!


Please Visit the following website for more details on the Kwa KM16 SR12, KM4 SR10, KM4 SR5, and KM4 RIS:

www.kwausa.com

To find out about product information click on products and to look at the forums click on community
Thanks for reading this review![quote]
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PostSubject: Re: New gun   New gun - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 18, 2009 2:40 am

that a bit of a mouthfull mate . thanks for the littl ereview
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PostSubject: Re: New gun   New gun - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 18, 2009 3:04 am

im just trying to help. you can spend 400 on a crappy gun and a grenade launcher or 400 on a gun that will dominate the field.. think about it..
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PostSubject: Re: New gun   New gun - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 18, 2009 3:09 am

ya ino i was tryen to say that was probably very helpfull for him
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PostSubject: Re: New gun   New gun - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 18, 2009 2:03 pm

[quote="saber95"]
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The crazy thing is that a KWA will last 5 or 6 years...if your lucky and don't shoot over 50000 bbs youl be lucky if the e1 is still kicking in 2011...In the end the kwa might acuatly save you money...plus all the benefits of buying from KWA and having a high end aeg...you 14 get a job dishwashing or busing tables in a resturant...you have the money before you know it....or hold off on the m203 and put all the cash toward KWA and get the m203 in the summer or something

thanks for the back up sambam2011...

mr JARHEAD.
im no spoiled brat. i work, pay bills and no one buys me crap. if i want something i save up for it. your 14 and the family isn't rich (and most peoples arnt ether)you will be getting a job soon. you can save up if you really want something. here are some specs on the kwa...

L. WEN
Product Information:
Well after being on Kwausa and talking to the forum admins who...more>>
I would like to say proudly are Radix and Allizard (user names), Radix has helped me a lot to understand this gun inside in out and this review is to give a buyer knowledge of what this gun has inside and out!! This gun is designed for the best performance possible with a V2 gearbox and has the best V2 gearbox shell on the PLANET!!!! I have not recieved this gun as it will arrive in September sadly but I know the specifications since the details do not say them

Internals:
-Version 2 gearbox with a epic uber amount of reinforcement in the front and EVERWHERE and it uses a new kwa 2GX gearbox shell
-Uses 6 9mm ball bearings that are simply indestructable
-Uses
-Contains a fully heat treated sector gear that is 5mm in width (that is .92mm thicker than even Systema torque up gears!!!!)
-Contains heat treated anti-reversal latch
-Contains new piston that is uber reinforced and is also ported and has a heat treated metal plate and the first tooth is uber reinforced and uses new material
-HAS A 2G bucking that is very close in performance to the fire fly bucking
-New improved Hop Up C clip to get way better compression and to prevent air leaks
-Has a 6.05mm =/- .03mm 509mm long barrel
-Super awesome motor
-Reinforced trigger post (already fixed for new updated KM4 and KM16 models for 2009)
-M130 spring

Externals:
-Fiber Reinforced stock
-New HEAT SINC MOTOR PLATE LIKE G&G GUNS
-NEW 1 PIECE OUT BARREL
-Machined 12" SR25 style RAS WITH NO WOBBLE AND" IS STRONG ENOUGH TO STAND ON" (tests performed by Kwa and yes I did typed strong enough to stand on quote from Radix from Kwausa Forums and Radix is a kwa staff member
-Flip Up iron sights
-Laser Ingraved Kwa KM16 SR12 on RAS (not sure if it is)
-Laser Ingraved New Kwa logo and KM16 SR12, Cal. 6mm, and Serial number (might be a special one for each gun)
-Matte Gray/Black gun body that is very VERY nice looking and has a great finish
-New Magazine finish is now gray to match better with new body color and looks like the same color as the G&G high cap mags and the mag is a 350 high cap mag
-Metal nut insert for pistol grip bottom

Performance:
-420 fps with m130 Spring ("results may vary depending on bb and chrono" - Kwa)
-20 rps (1200 rpms) test by Kwa with a 11.1v 1500 mah lipo

Specifications: (straight from Kwa Usa)
Overall Length = 39.5" [100.33 cm]
Outter Barrel Length = 495.3 mm
Barrel thread = 14mm* [Counter clock wise]
Inner Barrel Length = 509 mm
Inner Barrel Diameter = 6.05mm
Magazine Capacity = 350 Rounds Hi-Cap magazine included
Caliber = 6mm Airsoft BB
Velocity = 420+ fps** with .20 gram BB's
Rate of Fire = 20+ rps***
Weight = 6.5 lbs.
Power = 8.4V, 9.6V NiMh Battery, or 7.4V, 11.1V Lithium Polymer or Lithium Manganese Battery [Maximum 11.1 V, 20A continuous]

Special Features: (straight from Kwa Usa)
KWA 2GX Gearbox
KWA 2G High Performance Bucking
Machined, extruded aluminum 12" forend tube with four Picatinny rails
Fiber reinforced full stock with battery compartment
Full metal alloy receivers
Flip up adjustable front and rear sights
Flat top receiver
Free Float Rail Adapter System
Semi and Full Auto selective fire
Adjustable Hop-up
Optimized for range
(One more I feel Kwa Forgot) The Kwa KM16 SR12 looks like Jessica Alba transformed into a gun!


Please Visit the following website for more details on the Kwa KM16 SR12, KM4 SR10, KM4 SR5, and KM4 RIS:

www.kwausa.com

To find out about product information click on products and to look at the forums click on community
Thanks for reading this review!
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ok you convinced me, im short on time so do you think u could find a kwa gun that is just like the E1?
with the rails?
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ill look
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PostSubject: Re: New gun   New gun - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 18, 2009 4:54 pm

mgunner564 wrote:
scooter your link is broken.........

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_202&products_id=5634
woops mt bad thanks for the edit mgunner
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PostSubject: Re: New gun   New gun - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 18, 2009 5:23 pm

no problem.....
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PostSubject: Re: New gun   New gun - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 18, 2009 6:13 pm

ya but it loks like a goo dgun for don't u think so mgunner
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PostSubject: Re: New gun   New gun - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 18, 2009 6:16 pm

JEZUZ CHRISTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is crazy money!!!,
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PostSubject: Re: New gun   New gun - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 18, 2009 7:07 pm

ino ino bytu its way btter then the echo

Scooter man your killing me with the spelling! I can barely read this!
You gotta start helping me out bud
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PostSubject: Re: New gun   New gun - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 18, 2009 9:11 pm

[quote="scooterprodigy"]ino ino bytu its way btter then the echo[/quote

STILL!!!
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PostSubject: Re: New gun   New gun - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 18, 2009 9:22 pm

yes, I know, the money.
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PostSubject: Re: New gun   New gun - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 18, 2009 11:04 pm

ok guys, im just going to forget this and take time to rethink everything, just because the fact i was told that i need to majorly upgrade a gun with shimes and TBB and motor if i want a gun to last more than 2 years, and i don't know how to do ANY of these thing except the TBB, so im kinda just like F-it,
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PostSubject: Re: New gun   New gun - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 18, 2009 11:55 pm

Knock it off with KWA they are oficially out of the question. When he says he aint got the money thats the end of it.
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true sorry sorry Satan and JARHEAD
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PostSubject: Re: New gun   New gun - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Aug 19, 2009 3:42 am

it looks goo dand ur getten a high-end for cheap
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PostSubject: Re: New gun   New gun - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Aug 20, 2009 4:41 pm

I'm really confused about all this "high end maker" BS. Where and when did this start?

I'm about too share a little airsoft secret, G&G's totally blow IMO. I would rather take an echo 1 over a G&G. Not too mention that any sportline models will be worse than their so called "proline" predecessors. What you do get is an over priced echo 1 quality gun(not saying that its echo 1 guns), with a G&G logo.

I'm not a huge fan of KWA's anymore either, they are like ICS' without a split gearbox. You need a different hop-up, bucking, and sometimes even barrels than true TM clones. Sure the M120 spring and metal body are nice, but why not grab a CA if thats what your after. CA's are a much better deal when compared too KWA's, $20-$50 cheaper for a replica with higher quality polymer and metal externals, and a very similar internal setup.

/rant, this wasn't directed at anyone BTW. So please don't take it as such.

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PostSubject: Re: New gun   New gun - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Aug 20, 2009 5:46 pm

hmm i didnt know that . thanks sticks Wink
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PostSubject: Re: New gun   New gun - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Aug 21, 2009 1:46 am

idk, i just want a gun that will work, one that wont need repairs and upgrades all the time, i used to have crosman stuff and it worked great wihtout and extra crap and id get rid of it when the stock or something broke, not cause the internals f-ed emselves up,
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