Marker bb's. The end of the cheater???

Verdict Marker BBs (2009-09-02)

Cheating is a common problem on the airsoft field, with some hits even being ricochets sometimes it's tempting to shrug off a hit and keep going. Several years ago there was a brand of BB paintballs that attempted to solve the problem through marking the enemy but this wasn't received well as the BBs were of low quality and thus were inaccurate. Plus they had a tendency to break inside the barrel of hop-enabled guns and the paint would destroy the hop-up internals.


Now however there is a new attempt at making marker BBs They claim to be much higher precision and not cause any permanent damage to your hop-up. In this Bite the Bullet article we will have a first look at these marker BBs.


On the bottle (appropriately named Verdict marker BBs) it says these are solid core BBs with a highly pigmented dry lubricant coating, high precision, seamless BBs, water-soluble marking, temperature and moisture resistant. And doesn't leave residue on your hands.


But the more important question is: Will this have an impact on the performance of your gun and will it leave residue on the inside of your barrel and hop-up unit.


As a preliminary test I was given 300 rounds of these marker BBs and will conduct a simple experiment. Fire them all through an AEG, and then swipe the barrel with a cloth on a cleaning rod. Should there be any contamination the residue should show up on the cleaning cloth.


With the hop-up turned to maximum and the verdict BBs loaded, I unleashed a plastic storm of BBs unto an unsuspecting box. After firing of all 300 rounds of the Verdict marker BBs I took a cleaning rod and swabbed the barrel thoroughly. Then, under a macro lens, took a picture of the swab to see if there was any residue of Verdict's dry-lubricant coating. and indeed there was, however it was very minimal and hardly any compared to the other dirt that the swab picked up and poses absolutely no risk to the gun internals.

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/BulletDetail?bulletID=81

Christ, i thought u actually did this, but then I realized you copied the story :p.
Don't think they allow that at SC.
I know for sure the OUTLAWZ will be PEAVED to find paint marks all over their molle, radio equipment, and if were lucky, through their barrels :p.

well i hope that never happens

people should just learn to play right and not be immature. that would solve everything

NoNeed2Hate wrote:

people should just learn to play right and not be immature. that would solve everything

But unfortunately the chances of the are Slim-to-Nil.
I'm willing to give these a CHANCE, (That's not to say they're getting anywhere near my KWA) and if they're really good, would be willing to attempt to make them required at my local field.
Anybody know if they're Biodegradeable?

M14 double-taps wrote:

NoNeed2Hate wrote:

people should just learn to play right and not be immature. that would solve everything

But unfortunately the chances of the are Slim-to-Nil.
I'm willing to give these a CHANCE, (That's not to say they're getting anywhere near my KWA) and if they're really good, would be willing to attempt to make them required at my local field.
Anybody know if they're Biodegradeable?

Amen to that.

I don't actually know much about their make-up yet, but I'm going to contact Carp from CQB Radio and see if he can maybe give us some insight. It says water-based "paint", but I don't know about the rest of the bb.

I like the idea. However, it'd be difficult to make these catch on at fields. It'd be easy to get these for you and a couple of buddies to play with. However, you and your buddies probably don't cheat anyway, so they're unnecessary in that situation. To get these to be used at an airsoft field and/or airsoft event, you'd have to convince the field owners to require ALL users to use them and convince all the players to purchase them. Not an easy task to say the least.

There will always be cheaters in any competitive hobby like airsoft. I played paintball for years and would still catch guys who'd wipe off their paint marks, turn their camo inside out, or wear layers of clothing that they could shed after being shot. So people will always find ways to cheat. The good news is that most people are still honest when playing airsoft and the more the mature players set good examples, the more honest other players will be as well. I'm not sure I've played in an event where I didn't have some problem with a cheater, but I do my best to simply shrug it off and not let it ruin my day.

Well said Admin. Thanks for that. The idea was just kinda weird, which is why I posted it. I highly doubt it will take off...or that its needed.

Its gonna have the same problems as "paintball bbs" and most players don't want paint in thier gear.

not to mention it is expensive and very easy to wipe off with a damp/sweaty deadrag

Usually if no one calls their hit, they are insulting me and the gun, so I keep shooting until they finally cannot take it and call the hit.

Thats why there isn't much cheating at our field. you call your hit to avoid being hit 10 more times within the next second.

So I talked to Carp from CQB Radio about the subject a bit and heres the conversation...

From me to Carp:
Redwolf Airsoft just posted an article about a new product that "will end the airsoft cheater".
Do you have any insight or experience with these? It's become a hot topic on alot of the forums Ive been visiting.
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/BulletDetail?bulletID=81

HIS RESPONSE

Honestly, I think they'll go out of style soon.

People like airsoft because of the honor system. People like airsoft because they like their gear and they don't want marking all over it. People often say, "If I wanted to play paintball, I'd play paintball." That's certainly on over-statement, but you get the idea.
And as I was thinking of it, I wonder how much people really need to get marked - I know people don't call their hits sometimes, but I know for me, it's not a huge enough issue to want to change the BBs I use.

Those are a few thoughts. I haven't used them and don't really plan on it.
Tim