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PostSubject: Is weed a simple way to get revenue?   Is weed a simple way to get revenue? Icon_minitimeSat Jan 16, 2010 12:54 am

So I'v been thinking, and I have come up with the cunclusion, that marijuana is a simple way for the states to get revenue. looking at what it does to the human body, and stuff it is safer then drinking, but why is that leagel?

Are you guys seeing where I'm coming from? If they allow people to drink then why not smoke. The other reason I'm bringing this up is 54% of colorado crimes are from marijuana.
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PostSubject: Re: Is weed a simple way to get revenue?   Is weed a simple way to get revenue? Icon_minitimeSat Jan 16, 2010 1:09 am

Well one of the main reasons is tradition. Drugs have looong been banned from European founded countries.

Next we have the small fact that you don't get drunk every time you have a beer or even a glass of scotch, binge drinking isn't "forced" upon someone when they only have a beer or scotch. However if you smoke weed in any amount required to roll an L, then you are going to get high...

Finally we have the fact that we tried to ban alcohol, what happened was a huge spike in organized crime that almost killed the country. Then we got rid of that law and everything was fine...

Those are just a few reasons. Some argue that weed kills more brain cells than alcohol, and from the blowouts I've met I would believe it... Also, seems to me that unless you become alcoholic it is easier for people to get clean. Cannabis may not be physically addicting(such as heroine, prescription pills, or cocaine), but it is mentally addicting.

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PostSubject: Re: Is weed a simple way to get revenue?   Is weed a simple way to get revenue? Icon_minitimeSat Jan 16, 2010 1:47 am

your very right. you don't get drunk of a beer unless you a light weight, drinking is a lot more dangoruse to your health. it can give you alcohol poising, you can throw up and drowned while passed out, crash a car, kidny failure, list keeps going. But the worst weed can do is make you pass out, ive seen it, and read about it. I just think it's a simple way to get revenue, people do it because it's ilegal they like the thrill, but it hurts you less.
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PostSubject: Re: Is weed a simple way to get revenue?   Is weed a simple way to get revenue? Icon_minitimeSat Jan 16, 2010 3:16 am

Mind-altering chemicals are all the same in that you can become effected a little bit, or a lot, depending on how much you take, and that regular use over the long-term can have detrimental effects.

Sorry for the politics (this thread may not last long), but I believe in largely laissez-faire government, which means we should basically be allowed to do whatever we want so long as that doesn't endanger anyone else. Alcohol use is dangerous to people other than just the person who consumed it. Marijuana is only dangerous (and considerably less dangerous) to the person who uses it.

Honestly, I don't see any real reason why marijuana should be illegal. You're not dangerous to anyone while you're on it unless you try to drive (which, unlike alcohol, you can tell you're impaired when on marijuana). Nobody has ever died from marijuana use as far as I know, so it's not like all those other hardcore drugs that can kill you your first time. It has antioxidants that fight the carcinogens inhaled with the smoke. It does decrease your motivation, and regular use over the long-term can really decrease your mental capabilities. Used responsibly, marijuana could be a less harmful alternative to alcohol.

Keep in mind that for minors, tobacco, alcohol, and all other drugs are all illegal.
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PostSubject: Re: Is weed a simple way to get revenue?   Is weed a simple way to get revenue? Icon_minitimeSat Jan 16, 2010 3:09 pm

yes it is illegal but like you said you can't die from the intake, it will have long term affects on you but it is safer then then alcohol. If you do drive while high, you can space out and run a red light and kill somebody, but most of the time, since it is illegal people pay attention to there surrounding and don't do that. and you are right about it only threating yourself.

I am just thinking it's a way for the government to get more revenue. I've looked at what it does to people and it is a lot safer you use then alcohol. Alcohol after so much intake you will loose your sense of taste and keep drinking, then it just is like drinking water.
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PostSubject: Re: Is weed a simple way to get revenue?   Is weed a simple way to get revenue? Icon_minitimeSat Jan 16, 2010 3:38 pm

Imagine for a second that they made it legal. Now we not only have some moron drunk driving and endangering us all, we have some drunk driving moron who also happens to be high.
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Weed can also increase in violent crime. Now, not only do we have drunks beating their families, we've got potheads beating their familes.
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PostSubject: Re: Is weed a simple way to get revenue?   Is weed a simple way to get revenue? Icon_minitimeSat Jan 16, 2010 4:26 pm

Jarhead999 76 65 wrote:
Weed can also increase in violent crime. Now, not only do we have drunks beating their families, we've got potheads beating their familes.

Well, typically pot calms people...but I do suppose certain people react different ways.
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No, I understand, but I was referring to that part of the population that will have an adverse reaction to pot like that.
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PostSubject: Re: Is weed a simple way to get revenue?   Is weed a simple way to get revenue? Icon_minitimeSun Jan 17, 2010 3:44 am

Okay to back that up i'm going to say look at amsterdam, or holland crime rates. they are a lot lower from the last time i looked at them. I'm asuming that this takes some part in it being legal.
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PostSubject: Re: Is weed a simple way to get revenue?   Is weed a simple way to get revenue? Icon_minitimeSun Jan 17, 2010 10:51 pm

Lonesniper, I would probably disagree with that. In holland they have allot less gang violence and organized crime.

The legalization of weed would probably not do a whole lot except get people killed. The government would probably try to standardize it(it has been in the bills that would legalize weed), which means less THC than people could find on the street. This would probably lead to illegal sales and growth of weed because people would be looking for something stronger. Don't believe me, look at Moonshine and home made Vodka, even though alcohol is legal people want something stronger.... This would most definitely lead to more organized crime and gang violence...

Then there is the little known fact that cannabis is a "stepping stone drug" or "gateway" drug. AKA a drug that leads to more potent drugs. I know many of you are in similar school situations, but for those who aren't, let me share something about these stair stepping drugs with you. Weed only induces hallucinations for its first 7-10 times used, beyond that it usually reverts to a mild depressant(ie, typical stoner behavior). Now after those 7-10 times when you want to trip balls what do you do? Well for some kids it reverts to smoking weed and watch funny movies or something... For others though the desire to trip is to much and they try a much harder drug such as LSD, Cocain, Extasy, even Crack or Rock Cocain.

TL;DR?

Finally to back up what I have said, I had a friend not to long ago who decided that making a 4.0 GPA was not enough. So he started smoking weed. Well after 2 months of weed he got bored, and decided that he should try shrooms. He abused shooms for a few months before falling into several other hallucinogens(including Ex, Cocain, MDMA, Angel Dust and several others). On March 6th of last year, after breaking up with his GF he decided that he didn't want to live anymore. So he wrote a note, thanking a few friends for being there with him throughout life, and telling me that I should never smoke weed, or drink because I will end up like him... He preceded to drive his car to some train tracks by my old middleschool and wait for a train....

His Obituary: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dispatch/obituary.aspx?n=john-andrew-cordell&pid=124950725
The news article: http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2009/03/06/trainid.html


So basically yeah... Weed doesn't kill right? Question

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PostSubject: Re: Is weed a simple way to get revenue?   Is weed a simple way to get revenue? Icon_minitimeSun Jan 17, 2010 11:25 pm

Not to take sides cuz I'm not very knowledgable on the matter but you guys should watch super high me with doug benson.
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