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PostSubject: Re: Is this a good quality gun for the price?   Is this a good quality gun for the price? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jan 21, 2010 8:51 pm

Lone Wolf has more experience than I do with internal upgrades, best to listen to him over me.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this a good quality gun for the price?   Is this a good quality gun for the price? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jan 21, 2010 9:09 pm

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The G&G Should include bushings and it should also be factory shimmed. Normally I still check the shims when I get any new gun, and if I plan on using a LiPO battery, i'll go ahead and order 7-8mm shell with bearings.

Changing the spring will work. Just make sure if you buy a ridiculously tight spring (M150+), you also upgrade to hi-torques (motor and gears).

What kind of FPS do you want your gun to have?
What kind of accuracy? (specify spread diameter at 150')
What kind of RoF? (RpS)

Well.... i wasn't intending on upgrading everything... since the link that Omega posted seamed to be promising with the bushing upgraded and the spring installed
Would i have to upgrade anything else... cause the gun is already really good quality right?


I don't' want the gun to shoot over 420 so I don't go over most field rules... the M120 was the right speed for it
I would like the spread to be... lol idk just so i can hit some ones arm sticking out behind a tree from 150'
The RoF, hmm Iike 18 or more i don't' want it really high cause theres no point i have a cyma M14 it shoots 18 rps and seems fine

Okay your spring strength should be about M110 or M120. A M120 I would use .28's only. The stock gears should be hardened steel. I would do a piston AoE. Which is Angle of Engagement Adjustment. You place spacing shims between the piston and piston head to adjust the position of the piston teeth back or forwards. The AoE will set the catch tooth so that the top sector tooth will catch it completely and not start with only a partial contact. This will facilitate more torque on the piston and less work for your motor. You will need to remove the first tooth after the catch tooth on the piston for the sector gear teeth to past by it and contact the catch tooth completely.
There is a picture guide here, http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=2d7abd2d6235084a5b9700598c6c9e6c&topic=77728.0

Battery. If this were my set up. I would be feeling a 7.4 v. LiPo It will give you about 18-21 RpS on this set up and give you faster trigger response time. LiPo builds can get expensive if you add things like programmable MOSFETS, checkers, high Mah Lipo packs...etc. If you stick with NiMh use a 9.6v but I can't garuntee the same performance you will have with the 7.4v LiPo.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this a good quality gun for the price?   Is this a good quality gun for the price? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jan 21, 2010 10:11 pm

Lone Wolf wrote:
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The G&G Should include bushings and it should also be factory shimmed. Normally I still check the shims when I get any new gun, and if I plan on using a LiPO battery, i'll go ahead and order 7-8mm shell with bearings.

Changing the spring will work. Just make sure if you buy a ridiculously tight spring (M150+), you also upgrade to hi-torques (motor and gears).

What kind of FPS do you want your gun to have?
What kind of accuracy? (specify spread diameter at 150')
What kind of RoF? (RpS)

Well.... i wasn't intending on upgrading everything... since the link that Omega posted seamed to be promising with the bushing upgraded and the spring installed
Would i have to upgrade anything else... cause the gun is already really good quality right?


I don't' want the gun to shoot over 420 so I don't go over most field rules... the M120 was the right speed for it
I would like the spread to be... lol idk just so i can hit some ones arm sticking out behind a tree from 150'
The RoF, hmm Iike 18 or more i don't' want it really high cause theres no point i have a cyma M14 it shoots 18 rps and seems fine

Okay your spring strength should be about M110 or M120. A M120 I would use .28's only. The stock gears should be hardened steel. I would do a piston AoE. Which is Angle of Engagement Adjustment. You place spacing shims between the piston and piston head to adjust the position of the piston teeth back or forwards. The AoE will set the catch tooth so that the top sector tooth will catch it completely and not start with only a partial contact. This will facilitate more torque on the piston and less work for your motor. You will need to remove the first tooth after the catch tooth on the piston for the sector gear teeth to past by it and contact the catch tooth completely.
There is a picture guide here, http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=2d7abd2d6235084a5b9700598c6c9e6c&topic=77728.0

Battery. If this were my set up. I would be feeling a 7.4 v. LiPo It will give you about 18-21 RpS on this set up and give you faster trigger response time. LiPo builds can get expensive if you add things like programmable MOSFETS, checkers, high Mah Lipo packs...etc. If you stick with NiMh use a 9.6v but I can't garuntee the same performance you will have with the 7.4v LiPo.

I have like no clue what you just said.... but As my questioin was before..... Would this http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_49&products_id=27109 do the job for upgrading it to the M120?
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Yes but your gun should already have stainless bushings. Talk to someone at evike about it. Maybe you can get a custom upgrade package in the process.
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Yes but your gun should already have stainless bushings. Talk to someone at evike about it. Maybe you can get a custom upgrade package in the process.

What do you mean by "Custom upgrade"
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...a upgrade package that you ordered yourself.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this a good quality gun for the price?   Is this a good quality gun for the price? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Jan 22, 2010 12:13 am

OH... lol sorry
one more thing... why should i use .28 bb's the gun will only go 400FPS or so... i thought .28's are for 500 FPS... Is it better for the gun to use .28 or is it for the accuracy

cause i used .25's with my M14 which shoots 400FPS and its strait
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.25's would also be fine.
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95 wrote:
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I thought you had to purchase before, you get the coupons? or can i still use them

To clarify, anyone can use any active coupon code. You just have to be savvy to what they are and which one is the best for your order.
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I thought you had to purchase before, you get the coupons? or can i still use them

To clarify, anyone can use any active coupon code. You just have to be savvy to what they are and which one is the best for your order.

And were do i enter the codes? i didn't see a spot
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