This or That...

Hey guys,
Sorry I haven't been on in a while. School can be a bit distracting, and airsoft just hasn't been in my requirements lately. Well, next spring Im turning 14, which means a whole butt-load of airsofting opportunaties open for me. So I thought I'd start catching back up with the sport. Ive completed my Bundsweier loadout (Actually, finished it a while ago... lol), and being a typical airsofter... I want more. So, heres my problem, Insergient, or Marksman?
My current load out is an Echo1 G36c (Which I decked out with a nice Leapers Red-Dot, and other fine accessories), 5 mid-cap mags, nice chest rig, and some Flecktarn BDU's. Nothing fancy, nothing special. Gets the job done. Its set up to be more of a CQC and medium range loadout. But theres some problems. Flecktarn isn't the most favored when it comes to playing a role in a squad, but without it, the G36 just seems... well, out of place. So, heres the question.
Do I go with a nice marksman rig with a full-metal AEG with a barrel extention, MOLLE rigs, and nice BDUs? Or do I go cheep, pick up a nice AK, and go with the Incergency look?

MARKSMAN
Pros-
This would be a good choice because it would provide a long-range loadout to contrast my CQC loadout
I could make it look very nice
It is a favored look in most Squads and Teams
Cons-
All that MOLLE Gear, the mags, the gun itself, and other items can run up the bill pretty fast (Im just like the rest of us. Still haven't found out the formula for that money tree just yet...)
Many people go with the same loadout (Maybe not to the same extent, but its very similar)
INSERGIENT
Pros-
Its cheep! Get yourself some bandannas, other simple insergient-looking clothes, and your good to go!
AK-47s are easy to find and have a whole world of possiblities and realism (As well as being cheep XD)
Everyone admires well-dressed OpFor
Cons-
Well, a lot of people have AKs nowadays (←No, the rhyme was not intended, but its catchy, is it not?)
Its cheep, but may leave me wanting more
People don't admire crappy-looking OpFor... (They shoot them XD)

So those are my statements. Can someone help me? What do you think would be best? I know someones going to say it, and I wish I could, but no, I can't do both loadouts. Just the weapons would cost me $350-500. I aint got that money... Oh, and suggestions on guns and gear would be Fantastic!

Hajji style is always fun. More action.

Insurgent.
~Cheaper
~More useful (atleast IMO, Marksmen have limited use)
~Not found as often as you'd think, if done correctly. I give props to the guys at my field who sport a decent Insurgent loadout opposed to the hundreds of other MAR1N3 D3L7A SN1P3R loadouts people try nowadays.

M14 double-taps wrote:

Insurgent.
~Cheaper
~More useful (atleast IMO, Marksmen have limited use)
~Not found as often as you'd think, if done correctly. I give props to the guys at my field who sport a decent Insurgent loadout opposed to the hundreds of other MAR1N3 D3L7A SN1P3R loadouts people try nowadays.

I have to agree...there is a need for "opfor" players and a well made insurgent loudout will top a "mega awesome super special navy seal special forces" loadout.
If you need help, I know a bit about it and can provide authentic pictures and such...

Check out this video by C. J. Chivers (one of my absolute favorite war correspondents) if you want proof that while they are rare, insurgent marksmen are franklty...badass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frTNEoCHreE

If you do follow through with an opfor loadout, you need to decide early on whether you wanta "stereotypical" loudout or an authentic loadout.

An upside to an insugency kit is that you can easily convert it to be a special forces (like the unit that I posted on here a while back that was tasked with looking for bin Laden in Iraqi mountains and they dressed as insurgents mostly but had chest rigs over their garbs).

Eh while you're at it, watch Chiver's other stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69Gjy-x9aO0

Alright, so I completely agree with you guys. And Durkee, you know I want to follow through with this thing. So I need help. What replicas should I be looking at?

Well generally an AK-74/47 with wood furniture. The question from there is do you want real wood or faux wood.
From there you decide on brand. I stand by the Cyma series, though Ive heard G&G is a good option as well.

I forget the make...but there is a great Romanian AK replica with cherry wood foregrip...Ill link you when I get to a computer.

As far as clothing goes, there is a great Punjabi retailer I can link you to.
Bear in mind that many insurgents, if not most. are between 16 and 30 years old...so the traditional turban is rarely worn. A simple fabric face wrap will provide an authentic look without succumbing to steriotypes. Shes should be worn dress shoes, preferably brown leather or or faux leather. Eye protection can comprise of american-style black ballistic glasses if allowed or face mask if required.

Other than that, any 60s-80s Russian surplus misc items can be added without throwing off the look.

Ok, so I was definately digging those CYMA AKs, but would Kalishnakofs be used as a marksman type rifle like that? And durkee, could you give me some links, pics, etc.?

Going with a regular AK is going to save a whole lot of hurt compared to something like an A&K or CA SVD...or a $$$ Lee Enfield like in Durkee's linked vid just as a general rule, in my opinon. You could make it more unique buy getting a replica PK-A red dot maybe, I've seen an airsoft one but I can't find it now.

If you can afford it, my suggestion would be the RS SVD.

No I definately agree price wise. Im in no situation where I can spend a ton of money on a replica like that. So, on that note, I think I'll go with a CYMA AK. Now, its just the loadout...

alexkmmll wrote:

Ok, so I was definately digging those CYMA AKs, but would Kalishnakofs be used as a marksman type rifle like that? And durkee, could you give me some links, pics, etc.?

Oh I must've misread your original post (I didn't read all of it). No, AK's aren't marksmanship rifles...but there are variants that are.
If you want something authentic, you'd need to find a Lee Enfield or another 1930-1960's bolt action rifle. Contrary to popular belief, Dragunovs really aren't all that common.

Given that Enfield replicas are very rare, you may want to go a coversion route...
There is a variant of the AK used by iraqi security forces called the Tabuk that was modified to fill the DMR role.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?82581-Iraqi-Tabuk-rifle

The parts can be found...but it'll bring your price up a bit.

If that is out of your reach, you are going to want to" pick up an SVD or one of the AK's listed above.

Understood, understood. In the pics it looks like its only an extended outter barrel (Which is doable), but a normal AK will do for now. Now, durkee got any pics I should follow for gear?

Loose fitting clothes like a button up shirt and old pants, maybe woodland trousers; black balaclava or red/white shemagh; old Nike shoes or sandals if you want but I'd go with boots still. To be practical for airsoft and not get annihilated like a real insurgent, a Chicom or any 60s-80s Soviet/Eastern LBE (like this? http://weaponblender.com/index.php?productID=962) would be good for magazines & BBs. You could also throw in a ratty backpack for other stuff you might need.

This video will help...watch the whole thing...study it...
http://www.hugi.is/hahradi/bigboxes.php?box_id=51208&f_id=1128

Here are some pictures of roleplayers from the urban simulations center in 29 Palms (was out by there this weekend rock climbing ).
I think these are good examples because they show the image of insurgents that the US military "identifies"...

The robes they're wearing are kalled dishidashas and the headwear is just patterned cloth (not to be confused with turbans or muslim wear).




The above pictures are modeled after older insurgents...while younger ones will typically wear more western clothing mixed with traditional garb.

By the way, here's a topic I had going about the same thing (kinda)...might be of use to you
http://www.airsoftallies.com/clothing-gear-accessories-f4/opfor-loadouts-ruskie-or-jihad-t4910.htm

Alex check this out http://www.omahas.com/product_info.php?cPath=221_224&products_id=102

It's the Chicom I was talking about and it's a good way to carry mags/supplies while not straying too far from the impression. Thanks to M14Double-Taps for showing us the site.

Isn't that place great??
Alex I can assure you, you will not find this item at a more trust-worthy siteat a price which can't be beat.

Oh sweet. I'll check that out. Looks like a good site.