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PostSubject: okay, out of these four....   okay, out of these four.... Icon_minitimeSun Jan 02, 2011 3:22 pm

which one would be the best choice?
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yeah, I won't be buying it anytime soon, but for future reference.
I know jg isn't a great brand, so I am watching my step there.

oh, and on a side note, does anyone have any recomemdations on green gas? I plan on getting a silver dragon next and have no idea how to choose green gas.
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PostSubject: Re: okay, out of these four....   okay, out of these four.... Icon_minitimeSun Jan 02, 2011 3:38 pm

I'd definately go with the ASGI G4-A3. You don't need to spend money on a metal body, its just a lot of weight. Plus, the G4 Series has swappable uppers. Its really quite the replica, plus you have plenty of rail space for attachments.
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PostSubject: Re: okay, out of these four....   okay, out of these four.... Icon_minitimeSun Jan 02, 2011 3:40 pm

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I'd definately go with the ASGI G4-A3. You don't need to spend money on a metal body, its just a lot of weight. Plus, the G4 Series has swappable uppers. Its really quite the replica, plus you have plenty of rail space for attachments.
would blow back run my battery out quicker?
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PostSubject: Re: okay, out of these four....   okay, out of these four.... Icon_minitimeSun Jan 02, 2011 3:43 pm

No not at all. Its pneumatic blowback anyways. It might affect your battery life, but it would be like 5 minutes. When your running a battery that will last for several hours, 5 minutes wont matter much. Also, its LiPo ready, so you can stick one of those in there, and its wired back to the crane stock, which eliminates the need for a PEQ Box on it.
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PostSubject: Re: okay, out of these four....   okay, out of these four.... Icon_minitimeSun Jan 02, 2011 3:44 pm

alexkmmll wrote:
No not at all. Its pneumatic blowback anyways. It might affect your battery life, but it would be like 5 minutes. When your running a battery that will last for several hours, 5 minutes wont matter much. Also, its LiPo ready, so you can stick one of those in there, and its wired back to the crane stock, which eliminates the need for a PEQ Box on it.
I think I'd probly just get a 9.6v for some extra rof. just curious though, what's the difference between a regular battery and a LiPo?
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PostSubject: Re: okay, out of these four....   okay, out of these four.... Icon_minitimeSun Jan 02, 2011 3:46 pm

Lithium Polimer batteries last longer and they'll bump your ROF way more then a 9.6v. Thats why replicas have to be listed as LiPo ready, so you don't shread the gearbox xD
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PostSubject: Re: okay, out of these four....   okay, out of these four.... Icon_minitimeSun Jan 02, 2011 5:00 pm

Ay! The mega l337 snipoer is wising up and getting a REAL replica!

Given that those particular JG and Socom Gear replicas are discontinued because nobody buys them, and G4-A3's have been and will remain out of stock for a decent amount of time due to over-stocking on products for the holidays (which is always followed by a deep lul in their custom series)...I suggest not getting any of those. Check out the other replicas on the G4 line if you're serious about it.

http://www.airsoftgi.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=G4&x=0&y=0

If I were you I'd pick up the G4-A5 16SP Blowback...I heard it's going to be discontinued indefinitely.
It would be a wise investment...as it is a great replica and the resale value on it will likely spike once it's removed from the market.
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PostSubject: Re: okay, out of these four....   okay, out of these four.... Icon_minitimeSun Jan 02, 2011 6:33 pm

I greatly dislike the G&G combat machine gearbox, which is what they use in G4s. However, the externals are top notch plastics, and the blowback is cool. I own a Pro-Line G&G as well as the Combat Machine, and the Combat machine is continually given problems. This reveiw of the Combat Machine mechbox is pretty accurate; and a stock Echo-1 seems to be more reliable than the Combat Machine.
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PostSubject: Re: okay, out of these four....   okay, out of these four.... Icon_minitimeSun Jan 02, 2011 6:56 pm

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I greatly dislike the G&G combat machine gearbox, which is what they use in G4s. However, the externals are top notch plastics, and the blowback is cool. I own a Pro-Line G&G as well as the Combat Machine, and the Combat machine is continually given problems. This reveiw of the Combat Machine mechbox is pretty accurate; and a stock Echo-1 seems to be more reliable than the Combat Machine.
Mine seems great, I only get 330fps, but thats fine by me.
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PostSubject: Re: okay, out of these four....   okay, out of these four.... Icon_minitimeSun Jan 02, 2011 8:26 pm

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Wertuk wrote:
I greatly dislike the G&G combat machine gearbox, which is what they use in G4s. However, the externals are top notch plastics, and the blowback is cool. I own a Pro-Line G&G as well as the Combat Machine, and the Combat machine is continually given problems. This reveiw of the Combat Machine mechbox is pretty accurate; and a stock Echo-1 seems to be more reliable than the Combat Machine.
Mine seems great, I only get 330fps, but thats fine by me.
Same. I've even ran LiPo without problem.
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Ay! The mega l337 snipoer is wising up and getting a REAL replica!

the AEG isn't in replacement of my sniper rifle replica. it's just to add to my choice of weapons so that I can be ready for any role/field/game.
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PostSubject: Re: okay, out of these four....   okay, out of these four.... Icon_minitimeSun Jan 02, 2011 11:26 pm

G4 i personally like it and why are you guys bashing the sniper role because noobs adore it? well if used properly it can be a game changer you guys must have been hit and not known where it has come from if your bashing them
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well if used properly it can be a game changer you guys must have been hit and not known where it has come from if your bashing them
I could throw a BB and hit someone also without them knowing.

Get one of the G4 series. The mechbox is great...I have no complaints. Just buy what you think looks good...as they all are almost identical internally.
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PostSubject: Re: okay, out of these four....   okay, out of these four.... Icon_minitimeMon Jan 03, 2011 2:59 pm

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G4 i personally like it and why are you guys bashing the sniper role because noobs adore it? well if used properly it can be a game changer you guys must have been hit and not known where it has come from if your bashing them
just ignore 'em.

thanks for the advice guys. like I said, it won't be anytime soon (probly next spring or later), but I wanted to get some info before I decided to just buy one.
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PostSubject: Re: okay, out of these four....   okay, out of these four.... Icon_minitimeMon Jan 03, 2011 4:11 pm

None of those. If you have $270 to spend, get a KWA M4. Last time I checked they were $280 or so. Even if they are a bit over your price limit, they would be much better then all of those.
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PostSubject: Re: okay, out of these four....   okay, out of these four.... Icon_minitimeMon Jan 03, 2011 9:52 pm

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None of those. If you have $270 to spend, get a KWA M4. Last time I checked they were $280 or so. Even if they are a bit over your price limit, they would be much better then all of those.
my price limit is about 300 bucks. just curious, what makes the kwa better than these others?
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None of those. If you have $270 to spend, get a KWA M4. Last time I checked they were $280 or so. Even if they are a bit over your price limit, they would be much better then all of those.
my price limit is about 300 bucks. just curious, what makes the kwa better than these others?
Better internals, full metal externals, better performance, stock 6.05MM "tight bore", durable enough to handle a 11.1V lipo withought problems for a long time. It is just overall a very good gun.
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None of those. If you have $270 to spend, get a KWA M4. Last time I checked they were $280 or so. Even if they are a bit over your price limit, they would be much better then all of those.
my price limit is about 300 bucks. just curious, what makes the kwa better than these others?
Better internals, full metal externals, better performance, stock 6.05MM "tight bore", durable enough to handle a 11.1V lipo withought problems for a long time. It is just overall a very good gun.
great. thanks for the info. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: okay, out of these four....   okay, out of these four.... Icon_minitimeTue Jan 04, 2011 5:26 pm

Actually, spend $250 on a G&P SOCOM M4. I just got mine yesterday, and have owned CA, G&G and KWA, and none come close to this gun. It is cheap because it doesn't come with a battery/charger, spare mags, or a fancy box. It just comes in a boring brown cardboard box. The crane stock is a great feature, as is the KAC rear iron sight (included). This was very possibly the best airsoft purchase I have ever made. Here is the link: http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=6985
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The externals are VERY VERY nice on G&P guns, but they aren't as good internally as KWA's.

If you want great internals and great out-of-the-box performance, get a KWA.

If you want VERY good externals, get a G&P.

Or you can just go the cheaper route and get the ASGI G4-A3 and save the extra money for gear/etc.
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PostSubject: Re: okay, out of these four....   okay, out of these four.... Icon_minitimeTue Jan 04, 2011 7:06 pm

Actually, G&P has recently stepped up their game. I have a KWA gearbox at my friend's house, and was messing with it yesterday. I just looked in my G&P one, and it seems to be even better. I am not looking down on KWA at all, but they are not the best. Also, the gears are so smooth on G&P. I almost bought a KWA or a VFC (also amazing), but decided that G&P would probably be the better route. BUT, I would feel very comfortable with a KWA, I would just prefer another G&P from my experiences.

P.S. My KWA and my G&G died from shooting semi automatic in the cold. G&P's gearbox shell is made much better and will not warp, so I might be slightly biased.
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PostSubject: Re: okay, out of these four....   okay, out of these four.... Icon_minitimeTue Jan 04, 2011 7:50 pm

Was it a KWA 2GX or no?

That's good to know. If I ever decide to buy a M4, I might go with G&P if they are stepping up their internals.
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https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xb7u7i_kong-power-lithium-polymer-battery_sport
That should change your mind. I have fired kwa's with the new 2GX gearbox and they are incredible accurate,high ROF, and perfect fps for field. My friends had his for a year without a single problem other than the fuse breaking but he was using a 15 amp fuse with a lipo so that was bound to happen
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