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SnoSnipe
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|  Subject: LOL ATF  Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:48 pm | |
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Breckton
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:16 pm | |
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iliveforthis99
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:03 pm | |
| Ok so according to the ATF if i understand this right. It should be illegal for anyone under 18 to buy rifle and shotgun variants and same for under 21 to buy pistol variants. And in order to legally own about 99% of all airsoft guns you need a Class III weapons license. So that basically criminalizes everyone who owns an airsoft gun now. Wow, yeah that is pretty sad. | |
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DrummerBoyz95
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:41 pm | |
| I'm just glad the reporter called it an airsoft game instead of war... but why was he interviewing an 11 year old
If anything they're just making a stupid move by publicly pointing out their potential use as firearms... now there might be a couple attempts and they will ban them for good. The ATF "was able to make them fire"... yeah, people can make a click-pen shoot a .22, probably easier than they could make an airsoft gun shoot real rounds. Should we ban pens?
If someone truly wanted to commit a crime, they wouldn't waste time trying to heavily modify a toy. | |
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Spl. Durkee
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:49 pm | |
| So...anyone wanna bet on how long it'll be before this hits the law book? | |
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DrummerBoyz95
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:01 am | |
| Probably by summer, right before airsoft primetime | |
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sniper_32
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:17 am | |
| WHAT THE FRICK!!!!
*sigh* ATF is really becoming paranoid | |
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white wolf
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:25 am | |
| well then I guess I'll have to grab myself a real ak47, because they are legal!  ATF WTF? | |
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sniper_32
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:25 am | |
| Agreed!
If they classify the WE's as class III how are they exactly gonna track down all airsoft players that use one? | |
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white wolf
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:31 am | |
| well, first they'll check these fourms  EVERYONE LOG OFF! then they'll listen for the screams of 'hit' in the night paper trail electronic trail all airsoft guns are categorized under this new idea they got | |
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DrummerBoyz95
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:34 am | |
| We shall see... My mom's coworker was followed for 5 days by an "undercover" police officer after filing for workman's comp. He made it pretty obvious by following her into movie theaters and cereal aisles and parking by her driveway in an unmarked Crown Vic with spotlights & chunky mirrors  | |
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white wolf
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:45 am | |
| well, that'll be easy to spot if the ban happens honey the creeper is out front again  | |
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sniper_32
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:09 am | |
| so...if this passes..
we're screwed! | |
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Creed769
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:42 am | |
| Ok, let's all make an agreement;
If this crap passes, we all have to give the gov \"Watch your language\" to negate the law.
I will picket, riot, form mobs, etc, they are taking away my \"Watch your language\" freedom.
Go to \"Watch your language\" ATF | |
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iliveforthis99
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:41 pm | |
| - sniper_32 wrote:
- so...if this passes..
we're screwed! I don't think it needs to pass since there are already firearm laws in place and they've just labeled airsoft guns firearms which could be interpreted as they now fall under the existing firearms laws. | |
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M14 double-taps
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:17 am | |
| ATF said it "evaluated several of these air guns" and determined they are "firearms", and some even "machine guns," in the eyes of the law.
I'm gunna need a box of kleenex | |
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Spl. Durkee
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:41 am | |
| This seems like them trying to cover their asses after humiliating themselves over the latest seizures. | |
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Sanguinary Angel
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:55 am | |
| even if you did convert it the frame itself would most likely break after one or two shots. even the KWA ones they confiscated lol
I find it hilarious how stupid laws can be. The college police at my college don't get them confused with actual rifles | |
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Spl. Durkee
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:02 am | |
| - Sanguinary Angel wrote:
- even if you did convert it the frame itself would most likely break after one or two shots. even the KWA ones they confiscated lol
I find it hilarious how stupid laws can be. The college police at my college don't get them confused with actual rifles Yeah you'd have better luck just banging on the butt of a 5.56 with a hammer than trying to modify an airsoft replica to fire live rounds. Just idiotic. I bet if I tried hard enough I could make my car into a spaceship... 
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Sanguinary Angel
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:04 am | |
| and fly to mars in 2.5 seconds.
what a waste in our tax payers money. | |
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DrummerBoyz95
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:05 am | |
| - Spl. Durkee wrote:
- I bet if I tried hard enough I could make my car into a spaceship...
Not legally!  | |
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Spl. Durkee
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alexkmmll
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:34 pm | |
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M14 double-taps
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| | Subject: Re: LOL ATF Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:45 am | |
| HEY!! BACK TO ZE TOPIC!!! | |
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