Subject: Rule 1: Polish Commandos are better than you Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:05 pm
That guy will never, ever have problem getting laid.
DrummerBoyz95 General Grade 2
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Subject: Re: Rule 1: Polish Commandos are better than you Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:41 pm
Seemed like a lot of unnecessary movements to make it look faster
Spl. Durkee General Grade 2
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Subject: Re: Rule 1: Polish Commandos are better than you Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:52 pm
The only extra movement was the canting of the rifle at the very beginning. That was just to check the chamber to make sure the weapon is clear and there isn't a stovepipe. It's always good to do that on closed-bolt weapons.
The actual reload from hand off to charged weapon was about a second. That's about the same as the fastest practical AR reload I've seen.
That's the only flaw on the AK series...closed bolt. Having to rack that bolt after each change is killer.
Sanguinary Angel Sergeant
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Subject: Re: Rule 1: Polish Commandos are better than you Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:16 am
you have to pull back the charging handle on the m16 too. Unless there is still a round in the chamber...
i agree with drummerz it was just unnecessary movement, reloading that fast isn't that hard for anyone who's practiced. and it looks like it was sped up. or is that just me? lol
Spl. Durkee General Grade 2
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Subject: Re: Rule 1: Polish Commandos are better than you Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:34 am
Sanguinary Angel wrote:
you have to pull back the charging handle on the m16 too. Unless there is still a round in the chamber...
*cough* hence "RE-loading"...as in, running a stack through, clearing the weapon, ejecting dry magazine, inserting a stacked mag, and sending lead. Sure you charge your first mag, but the bolt sticks on the last round...so all you gotta do is hit the catch and you're back on the trigger. AK's don't have that luxury.
Sanguinary Angel wrote:
i agree with drummerz it was just unnecessary movement, reloading that fast isn't that hard for anyone who's practiced. and it looks like it was sped up. or is that just me? lol
Lol was definitely not sped up in any way haha. His movements were just fluent; he's probably made it muscle memory by now. Fairly certain reloading that fast is hard, even for those who practice. I do dry drills with mah 1911 on an almost daily basis and I haven't gotten that kind of agility yet.
Went over the "unnecessary movement" already but if by unnecessary movement you're referring to him crouching during the exercise, keep in mind that it is good practice to maintain movement within three dimensions at all time to make yourself less of a target. The Russians coined the art of fluid combat, where you essentially dance within lateral/horizontal space with your body constantly distorting the enemy's perceived target.
DrummerBoyz95 General Grade 2
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Subject: Re: Rule 1: Polish Commandos are better than you Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:36 am
Like in Call of Duty when nooby P90ers strafe left and right while shooting
alexkmmll Major
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Subject: Re: Rule 1: Polish Commandos are better than you Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:24 pm
Well before and after he reloads he turns the weapon sideways. This looks like he's checking the bolt, but at that speed I don\'t really think you'd be able to see anything, which in my mind means its wasted time on movement that has no actual relivance....
DrummerBoyz95 General Grade 2
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Subject: Re: Rule 1: Polish Commandos are better than you Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:34 pm
alexkmmll wrote:
Well before and after he reloads he turns the weapon sideways. This looks like he's checking the bolt, but at that speed I don\'t really think you'd be able to see anything, which in my mind means its wasted time on movement that has no actual relivance....
Agreed. He probably just looked at the list of procedures for reloading and then tried to see how fast he could do them all.
Spl. Durkee General Grade 2
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Subject: Re: Rule 1: Polish Commandos are better than you Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:54 pm
alexkmmll wrote:
Well before and after he reloads he turns the weapon sideways. This looks like he's checking the bolt, but at that speed I don\'t really think you'd be able to see anything, which in my mind means its wasted time on movement that has no actual relivance....
You could definitely see if the bolt was popped at that speed. Try it haha. He's not losing any time by doing that maneuver...the motion adds momentum to his drop to the knee and is fluid since he's reaching for a new stack anyway.
I'd rather use the energy to check my bolt to make sure I don't have a hangup than running a full reload and having to rack the action a second time to clear it.
alexkmmll Major
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Subject: Re: Rule 1: Polish Commandos are better than you Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:48 pm
LOL, right at the beginning? Its a blur! Watch it closely. You can\'t see squat! Now if it was a stovepipe this would be obvious to the shooter. If you have a stovepipe your not going to think its out of ammo...
AllTheGoodNamesWereTaken Captain
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Subject: Re: Rule 1: Polish Commandos are better than you Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:24 am
Ha! Polish commando can go suck Russian dike! You see, dis is how we reload in Soviet Union...observe comrades!
Observe how Spetsnaz commando (who is flying plane) tactically slips out magazine and pulls back bolt, and then BOOM! HAHA RUSSIAN STYLE! Commando actually simultaneously drops Tsar bomb while slipping in fresh mag. Oh Russia...the land where we make love to big nuclear missile every single night. With vodka. Of course.
Spl. Durkee General Grade 2
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Subject: Re: Rule 1: Polish Commandos are better than you Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:45 am
AllTheGoodNamesWereTaken wrote:
Commando actually simultaneously drops Tsar bomb while slipping in fresh mag. Oh Russia...the land where we make love to big nuclear missile every single night. With vodka. Of course.
Made of win
DrummerBoyz95 General Grade 2
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Subject: Re: Rule 1: Polish Commandos are better than you Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:26 am
Pff... America has the greatest weapon of all.
Spl. Durkee General Grade 2
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Subject: Re: Rule 1: Polish Commandos are better than you Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:12 pm
Function check: Do it or you die! Takes all of .0001 seconds.
DrummerBoyz95 General Grade 2
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Subject: Re: Rule 1: Polish Commandos are better than you Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:29 pm
I think you are confused on the definition of function check lol. It should take a minute or more.
Spl. Durkee General Grade 2
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Subject: Re: Rule 1: Polish Commandos are better than you Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:19 pm
DrummerBoyz95 wrote:
I think you are confused on the definition of function check lol. It should take a minute or more.
Nevar!
Bolt/function/action check...pshhhh, all same thing. I'm visually checking the bolt/action to ensure it is functioning order. OBVIOUSLY I don't mean a bench function check hahaha. "WAIT LEMME TAKE APART MAH GUN FERST! TIME OUT!"
Sanguinary Angel Sergeant
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Subject: Re: Rule 1: Polish Commandos are better than you Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:44 am
By function check he means checking the modes of fire and making sure all is working well. But you would only do that after assembling it or prior to an op. for the m16 it takes 3-6 seconds pending on how well you know the system. The ak i don\'t know, I've only just shot them lol
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