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PostSubject: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeMon Nov 03, 2008 7:47 pm

Do you guys think that airsoft should be in the news and on tv such as paintball or do you guys think that it should stay as it is a hobbie to most people that do not play. I chose private because i think that if it gets out to the public to much they might not like how the guns look so realistic in some cases.
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PostSubject: Re: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeMon Nov 03, 2008 7:56 pm

killyouno5 I agree with you on private. If you put it on the news people might think it's real and have a heart attack or something. Plus I imagine if it was a sport that got played in arenas then everyone inside of the crowd would have to wear goggles or glasses. Plus airsoft needs more room than paintball in my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeMon Nov 03, 2008 8:00 pm

ya that is a good point plus airsoft already has a bad name because of immature kids who go get a black pistol take the orange tip off and freak people out with them. If i ever saw a kid doing that at lets say a park i might just have to go get my rifle and see how he like airsoft guns then.
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PostSubject: Re: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeMon Nov 03, 2008 8:06 pm

My next door neighbors are little kids(they are 7+) and they treat there airsoft guns like trash. They kick them, throw them, and leave them in the rain or in the middle of the street. I still have some of the remains of the last kid's airsoft gun when it got run over.

By the way: For those wondering "Why in the world do kid's 7+ have airsoft guns?" I don't know but what I do now is that there annoying and they are fun to shoot at when playing an airsoft game if they're on the opposite team.
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PostSubject: Re: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeMon Nov 03, 2008 8:07 pm

Private, not trying to sound like a survivalist but the less people that know the better. Really you know what pretty much killed woodsball. Paintball publicity. Not only did people make a new aspect of the game(hyperball at firs then it was speedball), but they got alot of sponsorship. Then all the sudden people started to wear speedball jerseys in woodsball. then all the MilSim paintballers either left or became extremely annoyed.

Ill put money down that if airsoft starts getting sponsors and more publicity then we will most likely find ourselves playing a bunch of quick non military(or MilSim)indoor games that are televised.

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PostSubject: Re: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeMon Nov 03, 2008 8:11 pm

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Ill put money down that if airsoft starts getting sponsors and more publicity then we will most likely find ourselves playing a bunch of quick non military(or MilSim)indoor games that are televised.

This is kind of like paintball. It's MilSim quick games that are televised and the thing that helps you the most is if your fast and can nail targets with paintballs. Let's hope this doesn't happen to airsoft.
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PostSubject: Re: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeMon Nov 03, 2008 9:37 pm

No airsoft is one of those sports, boring to watch, fun to play.

Especially if all the camera's are third person.

reminds me of watching tenis almost
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PostSubject: Re: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeTue Nov 04, 2008 1:33 am

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reminds me of watching tenis almost

It reminds me of baseball.
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PostSubject: Re: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeTue Nov 04, 2008 2:08 am

Keep it private.
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PostSubject: Re: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeTue Nov 04, 2008 7:15 pm

I voted to mainstream it , but now I changed my mind mainly due to what sticks said . People will start playing for money and lose track of what they started playing it for .
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PostSubject: Re: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeTue Nov 04, 2008 7:46 pm

I saw this thing report about airsoft in Austrilla and they made the game seem so different than it actually is. I voted private a sport not ment to be in the spotlight.
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PostSubject: Re: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeWed Nov 05, 2008 11:05 am

nothing wrong with main streem. if people see what it is and that people play it, airsoft legistlation will become more lax because the sport is more understood.
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PostSubject: Re: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeWed Nov 05, 2008 4:27 pm

ya but you also have the problem of people getting to competative and it wont be as fun any more.
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PostSubject: Re: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeWed Nov 05, 2008 8:19 pm

Well, airsoft is competative today but we don't want it too competative like killyouno5 said.
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PostSubject: Re: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeWed Nov 05, 2008 10:09 pm

ya plus if more people start to play gun prices will go up and things will be soldout everywhere and it will make it harder for people to airsoft because of this.
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PostSubject: Re: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeWed Nov 05, 2008 11:26 pm

Not everywhere. Another result could be that there could be more companies and new guns for the new players. But I still say that it should be private.
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PostSubject: Re: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeFri Nov 07, 2008 5:32 am

I didn´t vote because there are an up side and down side to both,

Plus side with going mainstream,

Public Awareness, and a better understanding to the Sport and the People playing the Game

Downside to going Mainstream,

Going Mainstream will result in a Price Explosion, everything will be more expensive,

Flood of wanna be´s,

Teams will come and go so fast that nobody will know who is who any more.

Press is going to sensationalize the Report to fit thier own individual needs, depending on how they want to present it, and of course it will be portrayed all wrong.

AIRSOFT, The Killer Sport !!

6MM, The Danger in Your Neighborhood !!

Plastic Death, AirSoft !!

The only way that any Team could ever hope to portray AirSoft correctly would be to,
Hire a Lawyer to protect your Rights,
Get it in writing from the producing station, that you have all editing and presenting Rights,
You have the FINAL say as to what can be showed, discussed, demostrated or reported on,
Anybody here know of a news or reporter that would agree to those conditions ??

Up Side to keeping it Private,

Games and Events are kept to Who´s who invite,
Dedicated Players, not just wanna be´s
Community is small but well informed
Prices of equipment and parts stays within reason, no price explosion.

Down Side

Uniformed Community,
Airsoft Community grows at an incredibly slow pace,
Information on games and Events can be lacking,
Alot of misinformation,


Just my thoughts on the subject.
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PostSubject: Re: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeFri Nov 07, 2008 10:15 am

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Plastic Death, AirSoft !!

I laughed at that. But seriously I think it would be bad if airsoft turned mainstream.
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PostSubject: Re: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeFri Nov 07, 2008 12:13 pm

It may be funny for us .25, but think about how the Press would twist and turn everything around just so it catches the imaginination of the un-informed, all in the name of Ratings.

Imagine how many parents would absolutly flip out when the press perverts the dangers inherant to AirSoft, let Mom and Dad watch a `` Sientific ´´ experiment, of a tuned Sniper Rifle, firing into Ballistic Jelly from 10 inches, let them see how far the BB penetrates, and let them hear the voice over, `` This can happen to your Son or Daughter, if you let them play with AirSoft weapons !´´. The only reason I bring up this example is because that is exactly what the Press did here.

Another reason that I don´t fully support the Idea of AirSoft going Mainstream is because of the commerciallizing, pick up a PB magazine, every second page is advertising, or some junk story that has very little to do with the Sport.

Then we get to sponsors and investors of Teams, Proffesional Teams will have so much money pumped into them, that when they step onto a Playing field, nobody will have a Chance, where is the Fun in that, would be like entering a Bike race against Lance Armstrong, and you have to ride a Tri-Cycle !

How would anybody stand up against a Team that has all custom made AirSoft Rifles, Custom made BB´s, the absolute best equipment on the market, to include Third GEN Optics, Thermal Imagry, Sonic Ears, Camera Mounted UAV´s.
With this kind of money involved and reputation at stake, it would encourage cheating, maybe even Bribery of Event Judges and Referee´s.

Could be I´m just being a bit paranoid, Naaaaaaaa !

I like the Sport the way it is, better quality of People involved.
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PostSubject: Re: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeFri Nov 07, 2008 3:04 pm

I would say keep it private because like someone said kids taking the orange tip off and shooting people. Allot of the time it does get on the news if a kid does that just not national news (fox news, cnn , msnbc, ext...) then they probably would do the shoot it into ballistics jelly from 10in. Now if they had a person who was testing it he probably who go to 20ft if the show would let him and put a bdu blouse over it to show what happens. Like slob said they get the best gun out there that shoots 1000fps (m107 $2500) and would say this is an average gun.
My parents know how much it hurts. They seen what happens from 50ft bare skin with a 400 fps gun. My friends parents PLAY airsoft and he is 60 years old and he know how it hurts.

I would also have to add this if airsoft goes mainstream and the first thing they see is a good tournament, and the camera people do not get shot it might go over well if *cough* had not been *cough*. I live in his state he got the congress to ban silencers, restrict fps, put a tax on the stores, and almost got them to ban airsoft and paintball. If it was not for southern IL representatives I thing IL would be a no airsoft state Sad . Also you are not allowed to have so over so many bullets (which my friend is over, he has about 10, 500 round cases), to get a permit is much harder and most time you need military record to get it within 3 months, caliber is restricted too (I think it has to be below 30cal unless you have a special license), He also tried to ban gun before to but that brought out a ton of people and some senators almost got shot by gangs.
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PostSubject: Re: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeFri Nov 07, 2008 5:55 pm

killyouno5 wrote:
ya that is a good point plus airsoft already has a bad name because of immature kids who go get a black pistol take the orange tip off and freak people out with them. If i ever saw a kid doing that at lets say a park i might just have to go get my rifle and see how he like airsoft guns then.
Yeah, or you could do the sane thing and just call the police. I mean, unless you like getting shot or something.



And I think it should be left private. Watching an airsoft game on TV would be boring, especially those long ones. Blah.
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PostSubject: Re: mainstream or no   mainstream or no Icon_minitimeFri Nov 07, 2008 6:24 pm

Face it people the media fears guns and they want you to do the same.

And this is about any firearm or replica firearm period. "You should fear the government that fears your guns." - My dad

For example the second hitler became dictator over Germany. He had every household searched for any kind of firearms and completely banned guns so the people of Germany could not rebel.
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