Fighting

killyouno5 wrote:

Well I got back into school after having to skip one day and so did the other kid. I found out this kid has never been in a fight and that explains why he couldnt hit but later he tried to start more stuff and because I made a deal with my dean I went and told him about it. I will tell this to the judge but I don't mean to brag but several years in karate and boxing has tough me how to fight. He is mostly lucky he didnt punch me when I was actually turn torwards him. Also after I told people what happened they all dislike him becasue he didnt have the... to fight a fare fight. And guys im not going to sue anyone unless they really messed me up.

well it's a good thing your back in school and ha people dis like him now that happened to me last year a new kid had just come to the school had the same lunch as me. well I had a perfect run in foot ball from one side to the other a few people tryed to tackle me then out of NO WERE this kid come up starts chasing me wraps a foot around my legs I couldn't jump so I fell face first onto a rock broke my nose cracked my neck and landed on a healing rib (I know it wasn't smart to be playing tackle football with no pads and with a rib that was still healing but whatever) well after that I had the same class as him after recess so I chanengle him to a fight after school (agian not a smart Idea I have a broken nose but whatever) so he acts all big and tough for the last 3 periods of the day telling every body to come and watch him kick my a** well it turned out he started it and he was going kung fu panda all over me (HE WISHES) I nail him in the face give him a black eye he runs away and guess who he told THE PRINCIPAL.

Ya I don't try to start fights like that. Unless he really tried to hurt e on purpose football is football and you run the risk of being hurt.

I know the risk it's how he did it though and pushing while my feet are stuck while still moving it wasn't a good way I mean if he jumped on my back or tackled my legs it would have been fine but he did it a cheap way

Man you guys have some crappy laws. I've learned Jiu Jitsu for several years, and been in fights at school where they have thrown the first punch, I battered them and didn't get in any trouble. Because here, if you are attacked, you are allowed to use reasonable force to defend yourself.

Walking around town at night, I went through an underpass, had a knife pulled on me. The guy ended up with a broken elbow, I called the ambulance, gave a statement to the police, got a call a few days later confirming a similar status from the mugger, and heard no more about it. Since he had submitted a similar statement I presume he pleaded guilty and got a small jail sentence.

There's even legislation that means, if someone breaks into your home with intent to steal or attack you or your family, you catch him, pick up the nearest thing to defend yourself, hit him round the head with it, and accidentally kill him, you won't even get a charge for manslaughter.

Jim

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you are allowed to use reasonable force to defend yourself.

The Same goes in the States, issues come about when it happens in State owned or Operated Facilities, just like in countries, the politics have a way of Blurring what is Right and what is Wrong.

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Walking around town at night, I went through an underpass, had a knife pulled on me.

Knives have become a real big issue in England over the last 12 months, what was it 19 ? 20? kids( under the age of 18 ) stabbed to death in London, last year?

Yeah there was 11 I think, it's been an issue for quite a while actually. There is little gun crime, however, but we still see shootings in Manchester and Nottingham.

Jim

Ok, today this freshman attempted to interrupt my walking (tripping) lol. [I would give him a F for trying to start "Watch your language" because he just ends up running away.] I turned around and just stared, he ran, I felt tempted to chase him down and drag him to the admin office claiming "he is a threat to the safety of the school because he attempted to trip me going down a stairway."

Wow you guys have some crappy fights at your schools.... We had one today, normal BS(he talked to someones girl blah blah blah). Well it was in the math wing(next to the security room actually), took the cop 1 and 1/2 minuites to get to the fight because there were so many kids.

One kid got a broken nose, 2 broken ribs(paramedics not totally sure) and a black eye. My friend got a black eye and a bruised rib(they think its bruised). Both expected to serve a small sentence in prison and 500+ community service hours.

Oh and Jim: the martial arts thing is baddass. We got a shooting problem over here in Columbus. Its not alot compared to bigger cities, but anything except for 0 is to many...

sticks

Shootings

What ever happened to the good old days, Beat the ever loving crap out of your opponent ( or visa versa ), last man standing Wins !!

Was real simple when I was in school, even if it was a gang fight, then you had to wonder if somebody was carrying a Blade, now a days you have to wonder who has the Biggest caliber or Highest Rate of Fire. What are the next Generation of kids going to have to worry about ? Nuke or Conventional ?? Blister, Blood or Nerve Agent ??

"Watch your language" it, I am getting old, time to hang up the Airsoft Shooting Irons

Lol no slob but ya I belive anyone who uses a weapon in a fight shouldent fight anyways because obviassly they can't do it without it. But I have had So many years in fighting classes that most people don't know about because I don't brag. An I also heard that the English police force is actually switching from vest that stop bullets to ones that stop knifes just because they are being used more and more.

Aye its sad really. I was reading in the paper that someone shot up a rival gang members house and hit a female resident in the hip, she lived in the condo behind his. A few kids at school are having to carry knives around(in school) because they are afraid they are going to get jumped. Lots of Dramu going around today...

sticks

I would say the average student carries around something. I don't because I hate the fact of useing a weapon that can cause death unless I am being attacked by a gun or something then I would have no problem pulling out my future service pistol telling them to put it down then shooting them if they came at me.

Yes, and if the police catch you with a concealed weapon you will get busted.

Even if they pull a gun on you, shoot, then you pull a gun on them and kill them, you will go to jail for having a concealed weapon. You won't get murder because it was self defense in which case your life was in danger, but you still can not have a concealed weapon on you without a special license.

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Yes, and if the police catch you with a concealed weapon you will get busted.

Even if they pull a gun on you, shoot, then you pull a gun on them and kill them, you will go to jail for having a concealed weapon. You won't get murder because it was self defense in which case your life was in danger, but you still can not have a concealed weapon on you without a special license.

about to mention...So what do you have to do when you don't have the license...buy a hip holster so everyone can see.

lol no I was talking about when I become a cop. But basicly the way it works is that if you have a hunting rifle and you have all of the gear and every thing else when you get pulled over or what ever they wont care other than see the permit for the gun. But if you want to conconceal a weapon then you have to get a permit otherwise you arnt allowed to have one on your person. But if you are a cop then you can have your weapon on you at all times and not get in trouble. Trust me I have looked into it.

Yes, if you are a police officer that is something different. For the average person though, you can not conceal a weapon without an explicit license to do so.

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I would say the average student carries around something.

Not Picking on anybody here, so don´t take offense killyouno5,

But this comment really bothers me !!

Your 15, and saying that the average student in your school is carrying some kind of weapon for Protection ??

This thread has to do with School, and with Fighting, so this story loosely fits in.
It´s a few years old, but applies.

My daughter came home from school, and the Blade of her Butterfly was poking out of her school bag ( i didn´t know she had one ). Of course I flipped out and asked her what the H**l did she need a Butterfly for !!
After a long Back and Forth, with all kinds of emotions involved, she finally let the cat out of the bag.
Every day when she walks to School, she gets confronted by a group of young men ( to use the term loosely ), asking her to buy, try, or sell substances. She kept refusing, and they started to make threats, and get physical and she was scared.
So dad ( slob212 ) in his infinite wisdom decided to follow her to school and check out just what the deal was.
Well to make a long story shorter, what she told me was true.
So I confronted these young men, told them who I was, and explained to them in very simple and easily understood terms that she was to be left alone.
Of course there is always one who must demonstrate his lack of I.Q. and decided it would be a good time to impress his friends. Well his lack of good judgment was demonstrated in a very physical manner, and to this day she is avoided like she is Typhoid Mary by this group of individuals and all their friends. This happened when she was 13, she is now 18.

But that is all beside the point, If the average student is carrying, then this has to be known by more than just the students, and nobody does anything ?? That's what bothers me !!!

I don´t advocate violence, but school is supposed to be for learning, not survival training.

Excuse me guys, gotta go grease the wheels on my wheelchair.

That is disturbing...Where I go to school, I am not worried about guns as I am knives. I know two people who definitely have razor sharp butterfly knives on them.
I almost never see our "reliable" campus officer, Normally he would patrol halls like he did every other year, but now I think he has mall cop syndrome and sits at his desk with his 4 rotating CCTV displays and a playboy.

Just last year we had a bomb threat, luckily I was no where near the suspected area. The bomb squad showed up, the device turned out to be a fake and the student was arrested on federal charges and sentenced to a decent term with psycho-therapy.

Other than that our side of town is pretty low on crime. I live in a county where there is no gun tax and lax concealment laws...aka Cobb county, every criminal's worse nightmare and the HF.

I am pretty lucky I go to an uppidy school that I don't really like to much but at least there are almost no guns or knives, people rarely get jumped. The worst thing that has happened sinceI have been there is some one got shot with a bb gun. So I guess I am lucky or very ignorant.

Well most kids don't carry around like glocks or even butterfly knifes most of the time it i a small switch blade. And the reason the school can't do anything is because they never really use them in school so they will hide them and they will never be able do anything since they can't find the knife. My high school is almost brand new only 4 years old and already there was a bomb threat someone who though it would be smart to say he was going to shoot obama when he was doing a speach at our school and there was a time last year when 30 kids got busted for drugs when a dealer got cought and busted everyone he knew. So ya our school is nice most of the kids there are from higher end of the wealth scale and yet we have so many kids saying they are in gangs when in reality they wouldent make it a day in down town new york or any other major city.

Lol, the USA is packing some serious heat then? It wasn't that bad when I lived there (lived in LA for a year) and that was only about 5 years ago.

It's my personal opinion that everyone should learn a martial art, it has really saved me quite a few times on the streets, because to get to places, I often have to walk through underpasses by myself at night. Knowing that I can defend myself means that I do not, and will not ever have to carry a weapon of any form besides my Kubotan (it's a small 5" shaft of metal with ridges, used for pressure point attacks and wrist breaks, that also doubles as a keyring ) which I rarely use, other than as a keyring...

Jim

I heard that schools near inner-city Dayton, cincinati (home of the third worst team in the NFL!), and xenia have had to resort to clear backpacks, metal detectors, mini police forces within the school, etc., etc....

I was threatened once by a kid who I knew had a switch blade, beceause He thought that his "girl" (he didn't know the dance they had was a pitty dance(he has a mental illness)) had dumped him just to go out with me. I had to break up with her, for fear of my life, and hers. I was scared outa my pants for weeks, cause this kid had a preveious incedant with violence.

After Virginia tech, our school had to put cameras in the halls, and we had to practice "code red drills" (essentialy terrorist/school shooting drills, with dummy rounds being fired in the halls) It is kinda freaky that any school in the nation could have a Columbine incedent.

TheJim wrote:

Lol, the USA is packing some serious heat then? It wasn't that bad when I lived there (lived in LA for a year) and that was only about 5 years ago.

It's my personal opinion that everyone should learn a martial art, it has really saved me quite a few times on the streets, because to get to places, I often have to walk through underpasses by myself at night. Knowing that I can defend myself means that I do not, and will not ever have to carry a weapon of any form besides my Kubotan (it's a small 5" shaft of metal with ridges, used for pressure point attacks and wrist breaks, that also doubles as a keyring ) which I rarely use, other than as a keyring...

Jim

Naw Jim,
-"don't you know, There are more guns in the countryside than in the city!
-Yea, Everyone's mum is packing out here.
-Who's Mum?
-I dunno, Farmer's mums"- Hot Fuzz

Hey guys this is getting really off topic and could get worse maybe close this tread lol.

Well i should think there are more guns our here, I'll go ask my shotguns and hunting rifle.

Here, it's illegal for ANYONE to own a gun that is automatic or that has a barrel shorter than 24" unless they are armed police (obviously) or own a game liscence for a dispatching pistol, but absolutely zero automatic weapons or handguns for the public.

And about the police with the stab proof vests- yeah, mostly. And by the way, everyone assumes that our police force sucks because they don't carry guns, but thats where you have the Armed Police who can be called out, and are normally just out on the streets of large cities in pairs, with bullet proof jackets, a glock each and an MP5 between the two of them, and pretty much all the airport police have G36c's, MP5's or other HK weapons.... its pretty ridiculous!

And Hot Fuzz is great, but Shaun of the Dead is better. Simon Pegg is always hilarious. Although you guys probably don't understand half the jokes

Jim