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PostSubject: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeTue Dec 23, 2008 5:38 pm

Heres the deal Ive been airsofting for years promoting the sport getting others to help my team look for games or tourneys if they exist its taken me 4 years to get 4 people on my team and its been an overall 6 years to get 8. My paintball team it took me a month to find every player I needed not to mention I know so many tourneys and woodsball tourneys that I could get into and win cash and tropheys... My point Im thinking about leaving airsoft normally I switch paintball in summer and spring airsoft in winter and fall but this time forever.My question here is who can change my mind.
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeTue Dec 23, 2008 6:24 pm

It's not like we can change your mind if you want to leave airsoft that's your decision. If you can't find anyone to play with just stick with paintball. Airsoft is a great sport though, and we hope you stay on the forum.
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeTue Dec 23, 2008 6:51 pm

If you like paintball then it is your decision to play that but if you do just play paintball try to get them to understand why we play. I have seen so many airsoft vs. paintball videos on youtube with either paintball guys trying to diss on airsoft or vis versa. But just remember the differences in the sport and if you ever have that fealing of tactical door to door combat or you ever get tired of getting scarrs then im sure you could find something around you that will have some form of airsoft.
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeTue Dec 23, 2008 8:26 pm

Yeah but I mean Im getting sick of it. Ive been trying to hold out till im 16 and my team can drive to get out but I don't know if I can wait that long. I should probally revise my qeustion where can I find games and milslims on the east coast because if there out there Ill stay and wait till we can drive there.
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeTue Dec 23, 2008 10:35 pm

You don't have to "wait" just pick airsoft back up when your 16.
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeWed Dec 24, 2008 12:19 am

IF you are going to wait you could make it easier on yourself by using a crappy gun and play against who every you can find and this would make it a huge challge, because maybe your not sick of airsodt you are just sick of teh same old same old and this could change it up for you.
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeWed Dec 24, 2008 12:34 am

Ya a change in difficulty could be just what you need for a while.
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeWed Dec 24, 2008 1:20 am

maybe just go to paint ball don't get rid of your airsoft stuff just alternate but not like you do now when you get tired of one go to the other
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeWed Dec 24, 2008 4:39 am

Nobody is going to change your mind, the decission to stay with AS is completly up to you.

Here are some things to think about,

PB took years to get to where they are today, Large tournaments, Big money Sponsers, Great Prizes and Bonuses, none of this happened overnight. In comparrison AS is still in the Baby Phase of growing.

AS, just like PB is developing as fast as it can, more and more people are finding it to be a Good and sometimes even Better alternative to PB for many different reasons.

The Community worldwide is small,
The frienships and comeraderie are tight and long lasting, even if it is just in the Internet.
Not as commercialized as PB.
Easier to Set up a Game, not having to worry about the Mess.
Teams are more willing to share Information and Knowlege on Equipment, Tuning, Tactics ....

Just to name a few, If you decide to stay with AS, RESPECT !!! then you are truly a hardcore, die hard AS player.

Starting and Maintaining a Team is not easy, I know, but over time you may find that the Players that do join your team, and stay in the Game, through the good years and bad, will develop into a very tight, well working element to be respected on the Playing Field.

There are no Prizes in AirSoft, There are No Trophys, There are no National Events ( NOT YET ! ), There are no Big Money Sponsors.

But there is,
Fun, Fair Play, Teamwork, Respect,
I think that over time you are going to see AS become just as big as PB, maybe even larger, it is a Hobby/Sport for everybody, no age, Physical Condition, Sex, restrictions, the young, old, Fit, Fat, Lame and Lazy can play, and all have a great time.

If you stay with it, use the next couple of years to improve, Build up your knowlege base, refine your tactics, improve on strenghts, identify weaknesses, and prepare for the day when you are Part of a Large Game or Event, the rewards are Huge.
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeWed Dec 24, 2008 1:49 pm

I agree with Slob. Over all if airsoft does become where paintball is today there will be rewards for finding teams.

We are not going to change your mind for you but we understand your boredom and slow progressiveness with airsoft.
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeThu Dec 25, 2008 11:36 pm

My advise to you is to just not quit AS, you know just do both. I know I'm only 13 but i thank i know what im talking about,just alternate. Play PB one one weekend rest up and play AS the next that way you never get bored of one or the other and it passes time off planning the next weekend so you would be 16 b4 you knew it.

Just try it.
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeFri Dec 26, 2008 1:49 am

If you like paintball and don't like airsoft (even if its only in your area) then do what suits you the most. If you feel like coming back then come back later on when it is more developed in your area, or when it is easier to develop airsoft more due to transportation or whatever...

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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeSun Dec 28, 2008 9:35 pm

I agree that you should do what you feel most comfortable doing. I tried a few rounds of paintball before picking up airsoft, but found out speedball wasn't my thing. I've been a military nut since I can remember, so airsoft to me airsoft is a perfect fit.

If you are having trouble setting up a team, is cost a factor? Initially, I had trouble getting anyone to play in my area since most of the forums out there make it sound like you need a $400 TM to play. We started out with some el cheapo Crosmans and springers, and we have a blast. Most of my colleagues have maybe $100 invested in all their gear, guns, and ammo.
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeThu Jan 01, 2009 3:44 am

I think your best bet would be to keep all of your airsoft stuff and try paintball for a year, but still keep looking around for a few good people, because you never know when somebody new might show up looking for somewhere to play... Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeThu Jan 01, 2009 10:37 am

I tried speed ball before I ever played airsoft, and it was the biggest adrenaline rush ever. I enjoy airsoft for the realism though, and because of paintball I am obsessed with high rates of fire.
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeThu Jan 01, 2009 11:25 am

Whenever I do casual games I push for games like CTF or VIP that go very quickly because after a while red v. blue gets boring.
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeThu Jan 01, 2009 1:14 pm

That's one way to keep your intrest, mix up your game types a little.
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeThu Jan 01, 2009 1:48 pm

Perhaps I can help you...

I am a 16 year paintball veteran...I started playing back in 1991, when it was extremely rare to see a semi-auto marker. I got into paintball in its infancy, was there when it grew, was there when it exploded, and was there when it imploded on itself. Back in the day, teams were woodsball teams. We didn't even call it woodsball, because that's all there was. Games got faster paced, and eventually speedball, fancy jerseys, sponsors, and ESPN came along. I played on an amateur team for several years, and have played at many of the nation's best fields and against some of the best pro players. It's extremely expensive, even with sponsors, and highly competitive. At that level you have to be very, very good...because there are 20 others waiting to take your place.

If you enjoy paintball for the fame, money, trophies, and all of that, I find it only fair to warn you that the business side of paintball is not a pretty thing. It's one thing to compete at the local level, but at some point, you'll have to upgrade your status to amateur and eventually pro if you participate in sanctioned tournaments. At 13, it's not something you have to worry about right now, but I would advise you to chose your path wisely. You may find that it's not for you. Maybe you're not wanting to take it as far as I did, but you should know going in that the NPPL isn't all fun and games. It's a business.

Airsoft lacks all of that, which is why I gave up paintball. I doubt that airsoft will ever get to that level of commercialization. Just some food for thought.
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeThu Jan 01, 2009 2:12 pm

I hope not either. Me don't like shiny jerseys...GREEN OUT FTW
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeThu Jan 01, 2009 9:08 pm

Ya I think airsofters wouldent allow thems4lfs to be sucked into the media yes there will be those people who want to get fame from it but the older ones and I mean the ones who play for the hobbie of it wont participate in this. Personally I think airsoft wont become as proffesional as paintball is so really its up to you. Do you want to do the more famouse and well known sport or the less known underground type of sport.
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeThu Jan 01, 2009 9:31 pm

I think airsoft has its own version of 'Professionalism'. Sure most of us don't play in tournaments, or fly all over the USA/EU/Asia to play against other teams in a small field full of blow up pyramids. However airsoft/MilSim have a professionalism in relation to the seriousness of the game.

Oh and for those who think airsoft will never be like Speedball, check out the stuff that they are doing in the Philipines.

linkage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYZ5dT3cxeo

There are a couple move video's like that on youtube. Personally this is the last thing that I want to happen to airsoft, if it does I know I will not be the only person to leave the game.

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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeFri Jan 02, 2009 12:04 am

On a proffesional level, airsoft is advanced combat training, however I hope the sport maintains its leisure, but becomes a common thing.
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeFri Jan 02, 2009 12:13 am

i don't think that you should leave airsoft for paintball because airsoft it getting to be bigger that paint ball and soon you will be having trouble finding people to play paint ball with.
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeFri Jan 02, 2009 1:23 am

I just hope that it doesnt come to the point where all of the tornaments turn into speedball like most of the paintball ones did. If they did I think airsoft would gro alot but all of use would be forced back into the woods as a figure of speach.
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PostSubject: Re: I regret   I regret Icon_minitimeFri Jan 02, 2009 8:17 am

To go off topic for a minute, I don´t want to be the Black Sheep of the Forum but I do see AirSoft going Pro,

When I first started in Airsoft, there were just Spingers, one shot, cheap pieces of trash, that lasted about 6 months before you had to buy a new one. Since then I have watched as the Hobby/Sport has developed into different styles, methods, tactics, 1 to 1 replica´s, better performance and so on......

In relation to PB, AS is still in its infancy, small teams, local events ( for the most part ), but like PB, Airsoft is starting to explode. If you have been playing for more than 5 years look back to all the canges that have happened in this realitvly short time,
Limited market of guns, to now having almost any gun you can think of...
Introduction of all kinds of goodies, RPG´s, Mines, FAV´s, Mini guns, and so on...
Larger and larger events, Op Irene, Zombie Hill, Berget, Hensford, Biological warfare.....
The formation of Proffesional controling organizations, standardized rules........
Endless supply of tuning possibilities, both internal and external......
International Events
Prize Events in all aspects of Play, Speed Games, Mil-Sim, Target Shooting, Tactic use.......
Organized re-enactmet events, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, KFOR,SFOR.......

These changes are for the most part all part of the further development of AirSoft, either for the good or the bad, only time will tell.

AirSoft Players are a different breed, but when it comes to Sponsers, taking part in large events, Prize winning events, building and maintaining the reputation of your Team, we are all the same, we may never be the best, but we all want to be included in that list.

Right now most players are sticking to local games, but sooner or later you will want something new, new experiances, new team contacts, new and harder type of play, longer games, your going to want to test your skills against the unknown, measure your level of proffesionalism against somebody else just to see how well you match up against the competition.

There are a Huge number of players that travel amazing distances for a game, not just inside the US, but internationly as well, and I am not taking about pure Mil-Sim style games either.

I can only hope that the game stays on an even level, and the same rules will apply, AirSoft is for everybody!! not Just the Fit, Young, Para-Military, If a fifteen year old girl wants to play as a Navy Seal, GREAT, if a thirteen year old overweight boy wants to be a Ranger, Great, if a 55 Year old father of 6 want to be a Green Beret, more power to you.

As long as players keep the 3 Buzz words of AirSoft in thier heads, the game will continue to grow, and sooner or later it will become a Proffessional Sport.

Teamwork, Honesty, Fair Play, is what is going to keep AirSoft from becoming the Bastard sport that PB has become.
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