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PostSubject: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeFri Jan 02, 2009 6:11 pm

let me start out by saying i shoot my gun(tsd/utg l96) ALOT in the summer maybe 100 or soo rounds a day on average and in winter about 50, lately i have notinced that my fps has dropped signifigantly. ive lubed the cylender and ive cleaned and lubed the barrel and seen no results, ive even tryd stretching one of my old springs but that only helps for a short time. do u guys have any idea what the prblem is, is it fixable or do i have to buy a new spring, were do you buy springs for a well L96??


i poor man chronod it and it seems to be 340-385 fps with .20's long story short idk waht to do.
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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeFri Jan 02, 2009 6:30 pm

Time for a new spring?
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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeFri Jan 02, 2009 6:40 pm

Here is a spring that I am most certain will help

http://www.airsoftatlanta.com/parts_aps2.htm

they are located at the middle of the page.
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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeFri Jan 02, 2009 7:22 pm

The Spring has seen the End of its Days, time for a new one, sorry.
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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeFri Jan 02, 2009 9:23 pm

any good ones u guys wld recomend? will the aps 2 styles work in a clone l96? and what do they mean by 170 or 210 or wtvr numbers are on the labels? sry about all the questions as soon as i gain enouth knowlegde to help to help 1 of u guys i promise i wont slack lol
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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeFri Jan 02, 2009 9:32 pm

i am pretty sure that the numbers mean meters per second, and if your l96 is a clone it will have the exact same parts and shape...
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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeFri Jan 02, 2009 10:12 pm

Kkoerber is correct, PDI is Joules; Laylax is Meters Per Second.

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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 12:11 am

sticks.13 wrote:
Kkoerber is correct, PDI is Joules; Laylax is Meters Per Second.

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if its marked im meter per second then i want a 150 for 450 fps for 450 fps what wld i want in joules
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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 12:21 am

A 150 spring would be close to 500 fps, I would go with a 130 or 140.

I actually don't think they even make 140, and 130 would be around 430 fps. To put a 150 spring in I think that you would have to upgrade you piston and spring guide with reinforced, better ones. Also, you could look into the teflon coated cylinder and an upgraded cylinder head. I know that you already have a tbb in hand and you have a hop up on the way. I think you could go up to a 170 or 190 if you had the zero trigger system.
That would put you up to a possible 600 fps. Wow, but that would rack up the cash money on the way!
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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 12:25 am

with all those upgrades I previously listed, you would spend 350 dollars, not including a hop up, bucking, tightbore barrel, and the flat out original price of the gun. I estimate that to become a 600 dollar project.
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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 12:41 am

i look it up 3.28 feet in a meter i need a 140 i hope an aps 2 spring fits
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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 1:41 am

will a 492 (150sp) spring ruin the rest of my stock parts i can't find 130sp or 140sp not to mention 1 that fits
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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 2:53 pm

look on DJ's link they have 130s
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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 3:51 pm

sambam2011 wrote:
look on DJ's link they have 130s
those r PDI there numbers means joules not meters per second idk how to convert that to FPS with .20`s yet does anyone kno
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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeSat Jan 03, 2009 4:17 pm

They also have the laylax springs right above them
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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeSun Jan 04, 2009 9:12 pm

You need a Zero trigger to handle a spring that size...

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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeSun Jan 04, 2009 9:17 pm

I have recently been talking to sniper004 and he will be purchasing a zero trigger within 2 weeks. Along with other upgrades on the way after, like piston, spring guide, hop up, and tbb.
Actually he already own the tbb.
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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeSun Jan 04, 2009 9:54 pm

You don't need a zero trigger as long as you upgrade the piston and trigger sears.

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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeSun Jan 04, 2009 10:29 pm

yeah but it is easier just to buy a zero trigger. because we don't know how to upgrade the the trigger sears.
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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeMon Jan 05, 2009 7:34 am

I could tell you how. It's actually very easy and will save you some money. Obviously the zero trigger will also increase your accuracy too but is that tiny increase really worth an extra hundred dollars instead of just buying the sears?

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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeMon Jan 05, 2009 8:41 am

i think sniper004 will be happy to hear that.
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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeMon Jan 05, 2009 11:06 am

cool!
i had no idea that would affect its accuracy
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PostSubject: Re: FPS issues   FPS issues Icon_minitimeMon Jan 05, 2009 2:13 pm

Well it's not an increase in accuracy in the true sense, but an increase in the consistency of your shots, because it prevents excess movement in the trigger units and also in the parts in the cylinder.

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