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Sniper004 Sergeant
Posts : 323 Join date : 2008-03-16 Age : 33 Location : Northern Michigan
| Subject: camo color schemes Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:39 pm | |
| when i play i use a dark color scheme. my spotter uses a light color scheme. i normally ware tigerstrip or marpat camo and he uses tan and acu camo. the argument we have is when transversing multiple terrians is it better to be dark schemed or light schemed.. i would like two know what you guys think.
ps. we are talking about bdu's not ghillie. | |
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sticks.13 Moderator
Posts : 1931 Join date : 2008-02-10 Age : 32 Location : C-BUS, Ohio
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:30 pm | |
| OK hers the scoop from what ive understood.
the best type of camo for a multi terrain is a medium dark brown(this also goes for seasons too) the reason for this is way past me but from what i understand brown is one of the colors that the human eye seems to pass over and not pay much attention too. Green however is the color that our eye sees the easiest. but as it was explained the darker greens are also passed over most of the time.
from first hand experience what ive found most effective is for a lush green enviorment use a green BDU with a tan Vest or Chest rig. for everything else (winter doesnt have a camo that works well besides white at the short engagements of airsoft) use a tan based BDU with a green vest/chest rig. this way you maximize you color options. whatever you do do not go with black. in nature there is no nautral black. there are many dark browns but no blacks. if you want to blend into the shadows better its best to let nature do its thing.
summary: for late spring(may) to Juneish: green BDU with Tan vest for everything else: tan BDU with Green vest
honestly it would work well if you switched the patterns to the opposite seasons too. the main thing to remember is that no single camo pattern will do you best(from my own experience) but one pattern with same color top will do fine just not as good as switching them(in most cases)
for ghillie's (from what ive herd, i dont wear a ghillie but this method seems to be the most effective). wear a tan ghillie and apply green foliage on top of that.
hope that helps
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Seabass_9000 Moderator
Posts : 403 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 40 Location : Logan, OH
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:29 pm | |
| Nice response Sticks. I would say he pretty much nailed that. Black stands out badly... when foilage is out Tan based camo stands out badly. I guess in my opinion green/brown is the way to go. If laying on the ground, as a sniper you probably do quite a bit, green/brown makes since as you will be either in green foilage, dirt or leaves... Winter, wear hunter orange because you wont easily hide anywhere. | |
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March_ARB Corporal
Posts : 101 Join date : 2008-07-10 Location : Riverside CA
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:44 pm | |
| If your trying to get 'invisible" without making/buying a ghille. Try to break up those recognizable shapes of the body. Such as head and shoulders. I do this by taking my ka bar and cutting off the end of branches that are full with leaves and then stay next to that kid of tree/bush.
Make slow fluent movements! | |
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TheJim Sergeant
Posts : 348 Join date : 2008-10-03 Age : 32 Location : Milton Keynes, England
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:07 pm | |
| MULTICAM!!!
I swear by multicam all year round until it gets really lush and green and dense foliage in summer, when I use good old '95 pattern British DPM. Flecktarn also works VERY well for autumn where there are twigs and leaf litter coating the floor.
Late winter/Early spring: Flecktarn or Multicam Spring: Multicam Late Spring/Early Summer: DPM or MARPAT (see also US woodland camo for you guys!) Late Summer/All the way through autumn: MULTICAM Late autumn/early winter: Flecktarn
That's my setup
Also: Urban, Multicam or ACU Night games: Tiger Stripe | |
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.25 Gram Sniper Major
Posts : 517 Join date : 2008-10-07 Age : 29 Location : Arkansas
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:07 pm | |
| I use my ghillie suit(it's usually used during the summer/spring/fall but definitely not winter). I'll be sure to post a picture later. | |
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slob212 Moderator
Posts : 1489 Join date : 2008-09-05 Age : 113 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:09 am | |
| If you take all the comments above, add them together you get a real good idea of what Camoflage to use, Black should be avoided at all costs, both in CQB or Woodland games, Black is just one of those colors that no mater where it is used it sticks out like a sore thumb, the only times it is ever used effectivly is in re-enactment teams, SWAT; KSK; HRT.
MULTICAM; ACU; DIGI; are all well and good, but they are enviorment specific, maybe it is just me, but I spot those patterns easiest, and mainly due to the fact that they are just not good enough for the muli enviorments that most of us play in, part woodland, part CQB.
Things to consider when picking out your type of camoflage,
1, What type of playing field ? Woodland, CQB, half/half, Field 2, Time of Play, Day OP, 24 hour or longer OP 3, Type of game being played, Defense, Offense, Insurgent..... 4, Time of year, and weather, if you go out in desert in the winter , you are going to get hit.
Reguardless of what type of Camoflage you are wearing, it is only as effective as the player wearing it. If you go running all ofer the playing area like a Jack Rabbit being chased by a wolf, it is no wonder that you are spending more time in the Re-Spawn area than on the playing field.
Some tips that all players know, but every now and then have to be reminded of,
Don´t lay next to the bush when you can lay in or under it, Lay behind the hill, not on top of it, Take a position in the shade, not in the sun, Stick to the Shadows, Pick out your next 2 positions before you move, Break up your outline with natural camoflage, Check your Backround, Don´t stand if you are going to siloette yourself, Make your movements fluid, nothing attracts the eye faster than fast jerky movements, The easiest way from Point ´´A`` to Point ´´B``, is the long way !
I personaly use Fleck the whole year, it comes in 2 differnet shading patterns, Spring/Summer and Summer /Fall, and since the MOUT playing fields here are so overgrown with vegitation it works rather well. Just my 2 cents. | |
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pasniper21 Sergeant
Posts : 248 Join date : 2008-09-22 Age : 29 Location : Pittsburgh pa
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:00 pm | |
| I personally perfer a darker camo scheme i think a lighter camo stands out more and atleast for me is easier to spot. | |
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.25 Gram Sniper Major
Posts : 517 Join date : 2008-10-07 Age : 29 Location : Arkansas
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:20 pm | |
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- I personally perfer a darker camo scheme i think a lighter camo stands out more and atleast for me is easier to spot.
If you prefer the darker camoflauge than I would recommend sticking to the shadows(if you don't already). Examples are:shadows of trees/bushes/clouds | |
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TheJim Sergeant
Posts : 348 Join date : 2008-10-03 Age : 32 Location : Milton Keynes, England
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:28 pm | |
| I totally disagree with pasniper; darker camo schemes tend to show up more of a silhouette. Multicam blends in very well in multiple environments because it's quite absorbant of pretty much every colour of light that hits it, i.e. taking on a greenish tinge in a greener environment as more green light is reflected onto it from the surroundings, with a similar effect for brown and tan.
Jim | |
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.25 Gram Sniper Major
Posts : 517 Join date : 2008-10-07 Age : 29 Location : Arkansas
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:53 pm | |
| Yeah, ghillie suit is comprised of green,light green, yellowish green, brown, and black. I would recommend getting multicamo instead of just black. Just my 2 cents! | |
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sticks.13 Moderator
Posts : 1931 Join date : 2008-02-10 Age : 32 Location : C-BUS, Ohio
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:00 pm | |
| Multicam is probably your best bet....
However what gets me is when people wear Multicam and then wear a non multicam vest(ie. OD, Tan, or CB). This totally make the outline visible because the multicam blends so well the vest sticks out, then the more you look at that big green vest in the middle of nowhere you realize that's actually a person. Multicam only works with other Multicam gear. However I do apreciate it when people use Tan vests because they want to clarify their team(when playing green vs tan).
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TheJim Sergeant
Posts : 348 Join date : 2008-10-03 Age : 32 Location : Milton Keynes, England
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:05 pm | |
| In the UK we tend to play armbands vs non armband to save the green vs tan confusion.....
Jim | |
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Lone Wolf General
Posts : 2551 Join date : 2008-07-03 Age : 33 Location : Marietta, GA
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:01 pm | |
| Shirts v. no shirts. thats how we solved it.
no...jk
we actually use karate belts v. no belt i have a ton of spares. | |
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Alabama_Sniper Colonel
Posts : 1410 Join date : 2008-05-21 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:36 pm | |
| Black on black seems to work the best for me . | |
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Jman Sergeant
Posts : 201 Join date : 2008-10-06 Age : 30 Location : Heyworth, IL
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:58 pm | |
| ok ware i live it is dark and i use standered camo (wooden) BDU i got my from a mility suply store and i use them when i go airsoft and they work great i got withen 10ft of the other team with out them knowing (out of AEG ammo and my pisstals hop up got set to high and got stuck after i droped it but you can go to any BX and get some great gear the one i went to they even had ghillie suits that people used in Iraq and surounding and you can also get other gear there to rope, covers, vests, and other things and this is a little weird but fully automatic rifles if you have they right permints ie mility ones | |
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pasniper21 Sergeant
Posts : 248 Join date : 2008-09-22 Age : 29 Location : Pittsburgh pa
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:39 pm | |
| I didn't mean black by darker color schemes, i ment colors like browns and greens. Where I play theres no light getting through. | |
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TheJim Sergeant
Posts : 348 Join date : 2008-10-03 Age : 32 Location : Milton Keynes, England
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:54 am | |
| Ah right I thought you meant like Tiger Stripe which is AMAZING for night games and shockinglay poor for everything else.
Jim | |
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Jman Sergeant
Posts : 201 Join date : 2008-10-06 Age : 30 Location : Heyworth, IL
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:03 pm | |
| on my sniper is tiger stiped and you can't even see i left it on the groud and it took me tten minuts to find it next to a tree | |
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.25 Gram Sniper Major
Posts : 517 Join date : 2008-10-07 Age : 29 Location : Arkansas
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:53 pm | |
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- i left it on the groud and it took me tten minuts to find it next to a tree
You should post some pictures if there that good. I'm interested in seeing your striped sniper . | |
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Jman Sergeant
Posts : 201 Join date : 2008-10-06 Age : 30 Location : Heyworth, IL
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:26 am | |
| I will as soon as I can get my camera to connect to my computer. | |
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TheJim Sergeant
Posts : 348 Join date : 2008-10-03 Age : 32 Location : Milton Keynes, England
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:55 pm | |
| It may be striped but that doesn't make it 'Tiger Stripe' since thats a specific camo scheme with black and varying shades of green. Black stiks out like a sore thumb since there's no black in natural woodland.
Jim | |
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TheJim Sergeant
Posts : 348 Join date : 2008-10-03 Age : 32 Location : Milton Keynes, England
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:57 pm | |
| And are you (the spotter I assume) wearing different camo to your sniper? Because if so that will enhance the effect of sticking out instead of blending in together and to the environment. What camo do you use?
Jim | |
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Jman Sergeant
Posts : 201 Join date : 2008-10-06 Age : 30 Location : Heyworth, IL
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:10 pm | |
| I have no spotter and my sniper is dark olive green with black stipes. It does seam to work well ware I live because it is very shady. | |
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TheJim Sergeant
Posts : 348 Join date : 2008-10-03 Age : 32 Location : Milton Keynes, England
| Subject: Re: camo color schemes Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:11 pm | |
| OHHH you mean your RIFLE
You were confusing me when you were saying 'sniper'. A sniper is a person, not a rifle lol.
Jim | |
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