Medic!!!

I'm currently working on an Navy corpsman loadout and I just have a few questions...

1) I understand corpsmen, while not Marines, are authorized to wear USMC base uniforms...is that correct?
2) What kind of corpsmen-specific gear should I be looking for?
3) What kind of plate carrier/chest-rig? (And goodies to go on it)
4) Other gear? (IE: boots,goggles, gloves, etc...)

I already have desert MARPAT...but I'm pretty lost on everything else.

Can someone research this and get back to me? My internet is outta whack and it makes it difficult.
I'm thinking of going fully mil-sim with this...so stretcher, med-kits, etc...will all be used in gameplay


I've talked to some local OP's, fields, and teams...and they all expressed interest in the medic system:

"Where were you hit?"
"Right leg."
"Superficial wound. Grab a buddy and return to respawn and rejoin game immediately."
(Places white band around right leg. If both legs or multiple body parts have been hit, require a stretcher medivac)

"Where were you hit?"
"Upper chest."
"You are dead. Return to respawn, wait 10 minutes, then rejoin game."
(Places red band on chest-rig/plate-carrier.)

Hopefully I can help put the medic role "on the map"

personally dunno much about the gear but the medic rules here are

if hit once in the limbs you place a red rag on your person and depending on gear this couts as a chest shot so you sit down, a medic comes over to you then touches you for 1 min if not around in 5 mins you may crawl also team can move wounded, you can get hit 3 times in limbs befor out 2 times in torso and 2 times in head if wearing helmet each hit you add a min on ''medic time''

lonesniper24 wrote:

personally dunno much about the gear but the medic rules here are

if hit once in the limbs you place a red rag on your person and depending on gear this couts as a chest shot so you sit down, a medic comes over to you then touches you for 1 min if not around in 5 mins you may crawl also team can move wounded, you can get hit 3 times in limbs befor out 2 times in torso and 2 times in head if wearing helmet each hit you add a min on ''medic time''

Eh, that just seems too confusing for large-scale use. All that counting and trying to keep track of time.
The method we use is...

-Torso/head...you're dead. (Return to respawn, time penalty.)
-Limb...you're wounded. (Return to respawn, resume play immediately.)

Counting hits...crawling...time limits...erg, just seems like it would end up confusing people.

i like it more then that, because you never leave the fight medic say its more fun then any other position.

because the mass amount of team work used pulling people out to cover and stuff knowing you are the main target.

ill post better tomarrow

Here ya go, Durkee, hope this helps. This is from what I could gather from my cousin

1) Corpsman wear the standard In-Theatre MARPAT utilities, but they will have a "NAVY" service tape on the left breast pocket rather than a "US MARINE" one.
3) They wear the standard MTV, but IBA will work fine for airsoft
4) They wear basically the same gear. They wear the Lightweight Helmet (Basically a lighter PASGT), Belleville 550, all the fun stuff

Just thought i'd put in my 2 cents!

At a few ops i have been to, they have all used the same medic system.

If hit, you can call for a medic. If the medic does not reach you in 60 seconds, you are automatically dead. If they reach you, heres what happens:
1. You sit where shot
2. medic lengths of rope two feet long. You hold onto this for sixty seconds.
3. The medic then ties a 2 foot length on your arm, you have been healed.
4. you may be healed three times (3 lengths of rope on your arm)
5. if hit while you have the 3 pieces of rope on your arm, you go back to respawn for 10-20 minutes(this number has varied from op to op)

This is based on an honor system, and most people are honest so i think it works great.

For a corpsman kit basically the only think you need beside the basic infantry/specialist sqaq gear is a medical pack. I got this info from a corpsman serving with a scout/sniper platoon in the 1st div.

1:"I carry a CLS bag"
2:"However... You can get a S.T.O.M.P II bag from Blackhawk and that's what we usually use."

Those are the two bags/packs that they use. Google both of them to find similar replicas as they are quite pricey.

Also, Corpsman work both with the USMC, Navy units(duh ), AND recently even some army units are receiving corpsman. My cousin is deployed to Iraq with a convoy protection team for the US Army, his sister platoon's medic is a Navy corpsman. There has also been corpsman in the ranks of elite army units such as US Army Rangers.

sticks

Would a Corpsman Combat Assault Pack (CCAP) be suitable?
I found some online with modular holds and molle webbing on the exterior...for like $80 surplus.

If I'm running a realistic corpsman loadout, I would want desert tan, correct?

MOLLE 3 Day Military Assault Pack Backpack

I'm thinking replicas now...
-M4 (G4-A5)
-M9 (KJW M9 Tacmaster)

Do those fit the profile, because thats what Im using?

So we're pretty well agreeing on an MTV or IBA for torso?
Where can I get a PASGT for a decent price?
Black or tan boots?
Holsters? Thigh rig?
Signifact patches?

Is there anything else that stands out as an identifier or staple of corpsmen?


Thanks for all the help, guys.

Spl. Durkee wrote:

Would a Corpsman Combat Assault Pack (CCAP) be suitable?
I found some online with modular holds and molle webbing on the exterior...for like $80 surplus.

Got a link? I think we may be talking about the same thing...

Spl. Durkee wrote:

If I'm running a realistic corpsman loadout, I would want desert tan, correct?

MOLLE 3 Day Military Assault Pack Backpack

yes/no, It all depends on what they are issued/can get their hands on. Some would be Khaki, some might be CB... But with that IIIA pack you wouln't look any different than a Marine... Theoretically of course..

Spl. Durkee wrote:

I'm thinking replicas now...
-M4 (G4-A5)
-M9 (KJW M9 Tacmaster)

This is spot on, as long as the M4 doesn't have any non standard KAC style RIS. Optics would be limited, but either Aimpoint M68 or ACOG.

Spl. Durkee wrote:

So we're pretty well agreeing on an MTV or IBA for torso?
Where can I get a PASGT for a decent price?
Black or tan boots?
Holsters? Thigh rig?
Signifact patches?

1: MTV or HPC would be best....
2: Not PASGT, you would need a MICH 2000. They look similar but the MICH's ear protectors are way smaller. I believe they sell these on GI, if they don't check out EbayBanned.com
3:Holster would be a Safariland M9, in Khaki or Black depending on the kit timeline. Drop pannel in CB would probably be a good place to hold your IFAK or just a FAK pouch, if you needed another one.
4: Unless your are replicating a certain unit, no. Navy tapes if you want to take it to the extreme. Personally sense your not in the Navy I wouldn't do it.

Spl. Durkee wrote:

Is there anything else that stands out as an identifier or staple of corpsmen?

A longish haircut compared to the Marine they are around. That seems to be about it. Besides the big ass medical bag they carry.

One thing to keep in mind is the Corpsman are issued with gear from the Marine/Army/Navy unit they are serving in! So wear whatever a Marine/Soldier/Sailor would wear...


sticks

sticks.13 wrote:

Spl. Durkee wrote:

Would a Corpsman Combat Assault Pack (CCAP) be suitable?
I found some online with modular holds and molle webbing on the exterior...for like $80 surplus.

Got a link? I think we may be talking about the same thing...

Nevermind, I got my links mixed up. The pack that I found for $80 was the MOLLE 3 Day Military Assault Pack Backpack. But I did find this...

http://www.afmo.com/BlackHawk_Special_Operations_Medical_Back_Pack_60_p/215-01242.htm

Durkee, Belleville 550s are the standard issue boot. They're tan

Now, would a radio with headset comms throw off the look of the load?

lonesniper24 wrote:

if not around in 5 mins you may crawl also team can move wounded,

Can the OPFOR shoot you while you are crawling/being moved?

http://www.blackhawk.com/product/STOMP-II-Medical-Pack,876,42.htm <thats what I was talking about. LBT makes pretty much the same thing, that is much cheaper.

http://londonbridgetrading.com/ Search LBT-1562B(ravo) and you find a bag that looks like the S.T.O.M.P. II.

sticks

sticks.13 wrote:

http://www.blackhawk.com/product/STOMP-II-Medical-Pack,876,42.htm <thats what I was talking about. LBT makes pretty much the same thing, that is much cheaper.

http://londonbridgetrading.com/ Search LBT-1562B(ravo) and you find a bag that looks like the S.T.O.M.P. II.

sticks

The STOMP-II and LBT-1562Bravo are both over $300...seems like alot to be spending on a pack alone...

& can I get some links for an IBA or MTV rig? I really can't find any...for some reason...

You can find the LBT rigs at surplus stores allot. Usually in OD because the US got rid of its OD stock. I saw one for $35 the last time I was out, didn't have the cash to pick it up though.

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=28_96&products_id=2120 Cause you kids like condor stuff allot!

sticks

OOP, found something...

http://www.voodootactical.net/p-162-voodoo-tactical-field-medical-backpack.aspx

Looks alot like an LBT rig...and that is a great price.
Thanks Sniper for bringing up Voodoo in your "Voodoo Tactical Vest" thread.

I think Voodoo is going to be the retailer of choice for this loadout...their medical section is pretty great.

M14 double-taps wrote:

lonesniper24 wrote:

if not around in 5 mins you may crawl also team can move wounded,

Can the OPFOR shoot you while you are crawling/being moved?

yes but in the 5 minutes you are waiting they may not and there not aloud to follow you if they do while your crawling you have the right to shoot them and tell the ref. being moved is different you can get shot because you are now in the hands of a medic.

hello all. im new here and a U.S. Navy Hospital Corpsman. i have been in for 14 years and spent 7.5 years of that with the Marines. we wear all the same gear as what ever unit we are asigned to wears ,plus a medbag. there is no one universal medbag. your medbag is dependent on your unit mission. size of the unit. and the amount of training you've had.

this link is for the standered infantry medbaghttp://www.brooksidepress.org/Products/OperationalMedicine/DATA/operationalmed/MOLLEBag/MOLLEMedicBag.htm
no one i know has ever used it with the 4 pouches on the front of the vest. on patrols i would leave the molle bag in the hummvee and take a smaller bag with me.

randver wrote:

this link is for the standered infantry medbaghttp://www.brooksidepress.org/Products/OperationalMedicine/DATA/operationalmed/MOLLEBag/MOLLEMedicBag.htm
no one i know has ever used it with the 4 pouches on the front of the vest. on patrols i would leave the molle bag in the hummvee and take a smaller bag with me.

Sure you didnt just google "medic bag"...go down 9 links...and copy the address to this post? heheh
Just kidding with you.

Welcome to the forum!

Corpsman, eh? I'm actually looking into getting commissioned or becoming an HM after college...may have to talk to you a bit about that
Might I ask what rating?

Thanks for the link. If you say its a legit product, I'll think about going for it.

Anchors Aweigh.

Spl. Durkee wrote:

randver wrote:

this link is for the standered infantry medbaghttp://www.brooksidepress.org/Products/OperationalMedicine/DATA/operationalmed/MOLLEBag/MOLLEMedicBag.htm
no one i know has ever used it with the 4 pouches on the front of the vest. on patrols i would leave the molle bag in the hummvee and take a smaller bag with me.

Sure you didnt just google "medic bag"...go down 9 links...and copy the address to this post? heheh
Just kidding with you.

Welcome to the forum!

Corpsman, eh? I'm actually looking into getting commissioned and becoming an HM after college...may have to talk to you a bit about that
Might I ask what rating?

my RANK is HM2 or E-5
corpsman is an enlisted rating. if your getting commissioned you would be an officer and not enlisted. so you would not be able to be a corpsman. but if you have any questions feel free to ask.

randver wrote:

Spl. Durkee wrote:

randver wrote:

this link is for the standered infantry medbaghttp://www.brooksidepress.org/Products/OperationalMedicine/DATA/operationalmed/MOLLEBag/MOLLEMedicBag.htm
no one i know has ever used it with the 4 pouches on the front of the vest. on patrols i would leave the molle bag in the hummvee and take a smaller bag with me.

Sure you didnt just google "medic bag"...go down 9 links...and copy the address to this post? heheh
Just kidding with you.

Welcome to the forum!

Corpsman, eh? I'm actually looking into getting commissioned and becoming an HM after college...may have to talk to you a bit about that
Might I ask what rating?

corpsman is an enlisted rating. if your getting commissioned you would be an officer and not enlisted. so you would not be able to be a corpsman..

Oh my. Meant "or" instead of "and" heheh.
Planning on getting commissioned and getting into emergency medicine...OR...go HM immediately after college.
All depends on how burned out I'll be...odds are I wont want to go on with extra schooling...considering I'm already starting to get worn out

Now back on topic...
That bag. I've been looking around on surplus places and can't seem to find it.
Would you happen to have a link just lying around waiting to be clicked?
I would be more than happy to click it for you if you were to post it

Only problem is that I'm running desert MARPAT right now...so woodland would stick out like a sore thumb for the most part.
Was looking for flat subdued tan or OD...don't much care for the looks of desert MARPAT and woodland mixed...

sorry i do not have a link at this time. but like most military items it only comes in one color. another reason i liked to leave it. some people made slip on covers for them from old desert tops. but you have to take the cove off to get in the bag.

Just wondering,

E-5, I take it your in the Navy Reserves.

Think I'm going to go with an MTV instead. Canceled my order on the Condor interceptor.
Anyone have a link to a good MTV?