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PostSubject: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeTue May 18, 2010 1:01 am

Hello. I'm not sure if this should be here or in gears and accessories or what so please bare with me.

So I was thinking of getting some Russian airsoft guns. I was mostly looking at the Dragunovs, but then I realized:
"I hardly know of any Russian guns"

Of course I know that the Dragunov, the AK47, AK74, Kalishnokov, and one more which name's eludes me.

anyway are there any other airsoft replicas of any other Russian guns?
Or just maybe name some Russian guns for me.

Any help is appreciated.
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeTue May 18, 2010 1:08 am

Tokarev pistols (mostly custom, hard to find)...
Seen a few RPK's out there on the field as well...


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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeTue May 18, 2010 1:34 am

A Kalashnikov is an AK, it is not a separate gun or anything since it can refer to any gun in the AK family. Anyway besides the 47, 74, AKM, few other AK variants, SVD/Dragunov, and the RPK.

Besides those:
There's the PPSH-41 by ARES and Hexagon and a Skorpion made by Well i think. There's also a cheap spring powered SKS as well but it's mostly a novelty item. And i've seen one Mosin-Nagant but it was custom made from the real gun i believe.

Would be sweet if there was a nice mass produced model of the Nagant and SKS since i own both as real guns.
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeTue May 18, 2010 1:53 am

Yeah russia isn't really fond of having many weapons because their few weapons work really well! so there is no reason for them to branch and create different weapons. they only upgrade on what they have. for example. when russia needed an upgrade of the ak47 they just replaced a few parts took out and bad qualities and replaced it, the end result the akm, the same gun just with all the kinks knocked out.
When russia needed a lighter round for their rifles, but was just as capable of killing, they took their AKm/47 design and made the 5x45mm AK74, and the modern AK102/105 is just an update on the ak74....

Their a few other guns others forgot to mention, for example there is a bullpup dragunov with the magazine in the stock instead of ahead of the trigger.
also there is the vintorez which is a silenced sniper rifle, looks like this and is very sexy - http://img0.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/c/0/38/791/38791925_02_VSS_Vintorez.jpg

no one makes a vintorez, but i believe killbucket has probably made one

mainly russia just bases all of their firearms of the ak47 design, russia loves and will only love kalashnikov
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeTue May 18, 2010 3:51 am

That Vintorez looks familiar... isn't that what the Spetsnaz uses? And don't forget the Spas-12! (Edit: whoops, meant Saiga-12, my bad!) I wonder if anyone makes a rubber saperka....


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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeTue May 18, 2010 8:28 am

@NN2H You beat me to the Dragunov SVU!! But what about the saiga shotgun?
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeFri May 21, 2010 2:49 am

lol silly goose omega >_< the spas is italian Razz
and yes i forgot to mention the saiga shotgun Sad there is also that cool underwater assault rifle the russians developed... i completely forgot the name of it though. but the magazine was of beastly proportions and it was a beastly gun, although it looked like a piece of crap >_< (imagine an ak with a magazine 4 times bigger O_O)
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeFri May 21, 2010 8:30 am

This should do http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_weaponry . Found it while working on my project at school.
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeFri May 21, 2010 11:45 am

there are no Saigas on the airsoft market, unfortunately. Trust me, I checked, haha
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeFri May 21, 2010 7:03 pm

their are plenty of dragunovs. however most of them are crap, and i only recommend the spring or gas versions. (the aeg versions just plain old suck)
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeFri May 21, 2010 8:46 pm

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their are plenty of dragunovs. however most of them are crap, and i only recommend the spring or gas versions. (the aeg versions just plain old suck)
I was actually looking at the Real Sword Dragunov which is a AEG. would you say not to get it? They say it has unrivaled accuracy, which I have seen on video. I am thinking of getting a Real Sword Type 56 also. I think I might start a russian loadout of my own Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeFri May 21, 2010 11:13 pm

Talk to Bibon about the Real Sword SVD. He has one, and it is incredibly impressive. Real wood furniture, stamped steel if I recall correctly, and excellent performance.
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeFri May 21, 2010 11:27 pm

let me rephrase that, most* dragunov AEGs
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeFri May 21, 2010 11:50 pm

The Type-56 is Chinese, btw.
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeSat May 22, 2010 12:06 am

br55ftw wrote:
The Type-56 is Chinese, btw.
I know but not many people I play with will know the difference from a Type 56 and a AK47
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeSat May 22, 2010 12:14 am

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br55ftw wrote:
The Type-56 is Chinese, btw.
I know but not many people I play with will know the difference from a Type 56 and a AK47

.... no comment....

Never really liked the Type-56, nor do I like any Chinese-made weapon. But it's your call.
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeSat May 22, 2010 12:21 am

chinese does not equal russian last time i checked. and a copy is always a copy no matter what. so it won't be the same Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeSat May 22, 2010 3:35 am

True NN2H it will still be a copy but a Real Sword copy is the best copy out on the market. And I personnaly don't mind Chinese guns, I was also looking at the Type 97 but I think I decided I would get the Type 56 or Dragunov first. Also if someone doesn't know it won't matter right? Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeSat May 22, 2010 3:39 am

well if they made the rifle replicas exactly as the real guns are, there is always something that sticks out that can tell you whether or not it's a copy
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeSat May 22, 2010 11:14 am

That is true, however I personally dare you to find an AK47 or AK74 with the exact same quality as the Real Sword Type 56. It's just about impossible. anyway... to avoid any fight, and please everyone don't take this in a bad way, I'm not trying to insult anyone.


"Fighting with someone over the internet is like competing in the special Olympics no matter if you win or lose your still a retard."

and once again I just said this to avoid fight.
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeSat May 22, 2010 12:14 pm

Eat your heart out: http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_33&products_id=3037

And good job, you can use humor that was old two years ago. *applause*
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeSat May 22, 2010 12:45 pm

oh? im not arguing at all. im just being factual ^^ and as br55ftw posted a tokyo marui. tokyo marui will always be better than RS ^^
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeSat May 22, 2010 12:49 pm

Accordion man wrote:
True NN2H it will still be a copy but a Real Sword copy is the best copy out on the market. And I personnaly don't mind Chinese guns, I was also looking at the Type 97 but I think I decided I would get the Type 56 or Dragunov first. Also if someone doesn't know it won't matter right? Smile

I don't think NN2H was referring to airsoft copies. I think he was saying that a Type 56 will never be the same as an AK-47/AKM as there are noticeable differences.

While the Real Sword Type 56 is a nice gun, if you want a Russian gun then go with an AK (as NN2H stated, TM is much better than RS)
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeSat May 22, 2010 1:05 pm

right. If I do get into a Russian role most probably it will be with a RS Dragunov. +1 to awesome gun points. But I just thought that maybe I could get a AK47 and then just replace the wood kit for the RS kit, because after all wasn't there no difference in the wood? I think I heard somewhere that the difference was the sight and... another...thing... can't remember right now.
but do you guys think if I did get an Type 56 then I could just change those sights and that other thing (may have been a sling mount) for a regular AK47/74 parts and then use it as a Russian gun?
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PostSubject: Re: Russian guns   Russian guns Icon_minitimeSat May 22, 2010 3:16 pm

Um, here's a real BIGASS difference between the Type 56 and the AK47: HUGEASS FLIP-OUT BAYONET. It's built on to the real steel, but the airsoft replica shouldn't be too hard to get off. Of course, when you get it off, you're going to have the mounting point left over on the replica.
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