A little Late Night Reading

Let´s put some myths to sleep,

Myth: To increase your ROF, you have to do a complete GB rebuild.

Fact: I stated it here before in a couple of other posts, unless you are attempting to achieve an insane ROF, most decent ROF´s can be achieved with just changing the size and Type of Battery being used. Most people when they start going after high rates of fire they forget that, the higher level of performance that you are attempting to get out of your gun, the faster things are going to get worn out and break.
Up Grade your Battery and Capacity and you will increase your ROF, and don´t worry your motors can take it with
no Problems.


Myth: A Bore Up Set will greatly increase your FPS.

Fact: A Bore up Set will increase your FPS, but you will first start to see worth while results at the M120 level,at levels of tuning lower than this the Spring power is just not enough to realize the full potential of a Bore Up Set.


Myth : A Tight Bore inner Barrel will improve your Accuracy.

Fact: A Tight Bore inner barrel will only improve your accuracy if you have done the full modifications to get the best results,
better Hop Up, Hop Up Buckling, Nubbing, and the corrct quality and weight of BB´s.


Myth: A Tight Bore inner barrel will increase your Range.

Fact: A tight Bore has no influence on the range of your gun, A gun with a standard inner barrel shooting at 450 FPS, and a gun with a Tight Bore barrel shooting the same FPS will have close to the the same Range, a correctly tuned Gun with a Tight Bore Barrel will have better accuracy.


Myth: Increasing the weight of your BB´s will Decrease the power of your gun.

Fact: Increasing the weight of your BB´s does not decrease the power of the gun, a heavier BB needs more energy to travel Down Range, and a heavier BB carries the energy longer and is not as easily influenced by outside elements, wind, humidity, temprature changes. The trick is finding the correct weight and quality BB to use for the tuning level of your Gun.


Myth: Metal Pistons are better than Pom or Plastic Pistons.

Fact: Using a metal Piston increases the Stress on your GB, and over time can lead to total destruction of the GB shell. Metal pistons are Heavier than your standard Pom or Plastic piston, this increased weight when shooting is transfered through the whole GB every time the Piston Head slams into the Cylinder Head.


Myth: Removing the Anti-Reversal Latch in the GB is the BEST way to avoid having Gears Jams.

Fact: Removing the ARL will reduce the chances of a GB jam, but a jam is a warning that something inside your GB is not functioning properly, removing the ARL can lead to a total destruction of the GB. A GB jam can also be caused by using an incorectly charged or weak Battery. Something else to keep in mind, if you order Batteries from China, most times they are reverse poled, hooking up one of these batteries to a gun with no ARL, at a minimum will result in a broken piston or striped/broken Sector Gear, Pinion Gear or Bevel Gear.


Myth: You can mix Gears for better performance.

Fact: There are instances when you can mix Gears, but only certain gears. Due to the different production specs. from company to company, even when the Gears are of the same Ratio, they can and are more than likly to be cut differently. As a rule, when tuning a GB stay with one set of Gears, and when possible stay with the same manufature for all internal Parts.


Myth: To get the best performance from your Hop-Up buckling, it needs to be properly oiled.

Fact: Any lubricant in the Hop-Up or on the Hop-Up buckling is going to reduce the Accuracy and Stability of your shots. In order for the BB to have a stable and accurate flight, the BB needs to be spinning ( Drall ). If the Buckling is oiled or greased the BB´s will be pushed through the Buckling, not spun. Oiling or Greasing the Buckling will also destroy the Buckling, most oils and greases are petroleum based and will ``eat´´ the rubber.


Myth: Too large a battery will destroy your motor.

Fact: None of the conventional batteries that we use in AirSoft, will destroy the Motor in your AEG, you can actualy hook up your AEG to your car Battery and the gun will operate just fine ( not reccommended ). The size and capacity of the battery used will determine how well the motor operates. Higher voltage and larger capacity will increase your playing time, Of course with a higher ROF the more your motor is working.


Myth: Playing in cold or wet weather is bad for your AEG.

Fact: Playing in the cold or wet weather does not hurt your AEG, some things need to be thought about first, Keeping your batteries warm so that don´t loose thier capacity, Tight bore barrels ( 6,01mm ) barrels should be removed when playing in tempratures around the freezing point 32 Degrees ( 0 Celceus ), the barrels have a tendancy to shrink in the cold resulting in Inner Barrel Jams. Inner lubricant of the GB should not be a Heavy Grease, a light silicon grease or oil is more appropriate for winter games. Don´t forget after playing in the rain or in cold weather, heavy gun maintainence is required. Metal sweats when going from warm to cold and back again, don´t want to go to the next game with a rod of Rust.


Myth: Polishing the inside of your Cylinder will give you better performance.

Fact: The inside of your cylinder is polished ! Any further polishing can lead to areas on the cylinder wall that are no longer capable of making a good seal with th O-Ring on the Piston Head.


Myth: Drop-In GB´s are better than Self tuned GB´s .

Fact: Most manufatures of Drop-In GB´s use thier base products in thier Pre-Made GB´s, ie Standard Piston with a Performance Piston Head. When building or tuning your own GB you can most times build a better GB for less money.

Myth: Bearing Bushings are better for your Gears and GB.

Fact: All bushings are made for specific types of tuning. Personaly I would only use Bearing Bushings up to the M130 level. If a bearing should collapse the added strain on the rest of the Bearings will result in a complete failure of the Bushing, which could lead to a warping of the gear axel, Cutting of of the axel, or a complete destruction of the GB Shell.


Myth: Oil Channel Bushings do not need any Maintainence,

Fact: Oil Channel Bushings collect debris in the Channel and over time will grind into the Axel of your Gears giving them an ``x´´ form. If not recognized soon enough this can lead to the Axel breaking and extreme inner damage to your GB.

Enough for Today ???
Sleep well !

Wow that put a lot of myth's to bed for me. Great read Slob



However there is one problem with myth #10. Too large a battery you could strip your piston teeth. What happens is the sector gear is going faster than the decompression of the spring so you are not getting the full use of the spring. Also the slamming of the piston teeth to sector gear could cause permanent damage. I think that is the reason why people say TOO large a battery will destroy your gun.

Everything else looks fine.

This article has helped me alot, thanks.

LW that a battery with to high a voltage. The actual battery size does not matter. If you are using a small type 9.6 1500MaH with 35amp discharg, then you buy a C celled 4200MaH 35amp discharge 9.6 you will not damage your gun.

great guide Slob I vote a sticky!

sticks

wow slob thanks.

sticks.13 wrote:

LW that a battery with to high a voltage. The actual battery size does not matter. If you are using a small type 9.6 1500MaH with 35amp discharg, then you buy a C celled 4200MaH 35amp discharge 9.6 you will not damage your gun.

great guide Slob I vote a sticky!

sticks

same difference... Thats what I meant, because note how slob said alot about increasing ROF not duration of play.

Your duration of play is also based on what kind of setup you are running,

Example,

2 Players,

First players is running an AEG with Max Torque Gears, M190 spring, 10,8V 4500 MaH Battery

Second Player, Same Gears, M130 Spring Same batterie,

Both players style of play is the same, no long Ratta-Tat-Tats, both sending the same amount of BB´s down Range, Who Plays longer ?

Second Player, his/her Electrical requirements are lower.

Quote :

Also the slamming of the piston teeth to sector gear could cause permanent damage.

This happens every time you pull the trigger, even when using Mosfets with Active Braking.
Since the Sector gear and Piston work on a catch and release cycle, once the piston is let go by the Sector gear and the piston slides forward into the cylinder, when the Sector gear come back around Slamming into the catch tooth on your Piston, that is why it is so large on the Piston.

Quote :

What happens is the sector gear is going faster than the decompression of the spring

This is a possiblity, Systema Turbo, on an M85 Spring using a 24V 60 AMp battery.
I have used 0,5er´s with 12V 4500Mah Batteries with no problems.

KillBucket from AirSharp is notorious for such wild experiments, case in Point
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4hHg72Hj3o