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PostSubject: Upgrade   Upgrade Icon_minitimeSun Apr 19, 2009 12:15 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Upgrade   Upgrade Icon_minitimeSun Apr 19, 2009 12:27 pm

You could get a new spring something like an M120 spring sould bring it up to around 400 FPS correct me if im wrong. A new spring would be the easyest way to higher FPS. I don't know anything about internal upgrades but you could find an M120-M150 spring on any airsoft website probably in the internal upgrades catagory.
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrade   Upgrade Icon_minitimeSun Apr 19, 2009 12:29 pm

but do i have to change the motor or the other internals?
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrade   Upgrade Icon_minitimeSun Apr 19, 2009 12:31 pm

Im not sure I don't really know anything about internal upgrades you would have to ask somebody else. But I think you could just replace the spring and that should be alright.
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrade   Upgrade Icon_minitimeSun Apr 19, 2009 12:55 pm

my brother says to get the origanol plastic one because the inner outer barrels are cheap metal but that is 170 is there a better M4 for less
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrade   Upgrade Icon_minitimeSun Apr 19, 2009 1:10 pm

I don't think so unless you go with like an Echo 1 M4 or a JG M4 which both could easly be upgraded. According to ASGI they have sold a bunch of combat machine M4's and have recived little to no returns. As long as you take care of your and a basic idea of how to handle and care for it it's going to work for you.

Echo 1
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_203&products_id=1975
JG
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_166&products_id=3432

I would go with Echo over JG although your going to be sniping with it the JG has a 400+ FPS in it so there would be no need to buy that spring.
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrade   Upgrade Icon_minitimeSun Apr 19, 2009 6:35 pm

New Spring,
Full Metal Tooth Piston, ( Not Full Metal Piston )
Larger Battery if you want to keep the same ROF

The motor should handle the spring without a problem, along with the rest of the internals.
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrade   Upgrade Icon_minitimeSun Apr 19, 2009 10:01 pm

i'm gonna get the one my bro says and upgrade it i just want a nice gun
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrade   Upgrade Icon_minitimeSun Apr 19, 2009 10:29 pm

Why don't you save up maybe like to $260 and get a full metal G&G or Classic Army? Those will serve you very well and are also easy to upgrade.
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrade   Upgrade Icon_minitimeSun Apr 19, 2009 10:31 pm

i want to get the acual gun soon i posted my gun in the boston catigory under toy on craislist
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrade   Upgrade Icon_minitimeSun Apr 19, 2009 10:37 pm

slob212 wrote:
New Spring,
Full Metal Tooth Piston, ( Not Full Metal Piston )
Larger Battery if you want to keep the same ROF

The motor should handle the spring without a problem, along with the rest of the internals.
could i get a link on the piston?
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrade   Upgrade Icon_minitimeSun Apr 19, 2009 10:55 pm

is there a spring between m110 and a m120?
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrade   Upgrade Icon_minitimeMon Apr 20, 2009 3:47 am

http://www.airsoftpost.com/internal-parts-pistons-c-24_75.html

To use a Spring between an M110 and M120, you should be looking towards a SP or % spring.

Systema:
1 Joule - 310 f.p.s.
M100 - 365 f.p.s.
M120 - 395 f.p.s.
M120S - 440 f.p.s.

Prometheus:
MS90SP - 315 f.p.s.
MS100SP - 340 f.p.s.
MS110SP - 390 f.p.s.
MS120SP - 440 f.p.s.

Guarder:
SP85 - 313 f.p.s.
SP90 - 335 f.p.s.
SP100 - 395 f.p.s.
SP110 - 425 f.p.s.
SP120 - 440 f.p.s.

KM:
90M - 318 f.p.s.
100M - 343 f.p.s.
120M - 396 f.p.s.
130M - 422 f.p.s.
140M - 450 f.p.s.

PDI:
120% - 330 f.p.s.
130% - 370 f.p.s.
140% - 380 f.p.s.
150% - 385-400 f.p.s
170% - 390-415 f.p.s. edited by TriChrome

Angel:
120% (85-95m/s) - 318f.p.s.
130% (95-110m/s) - 343 f.p.s.
140% (110-125m/s) - 430 f.p.s.

Top Power:
150% - 385 f.p.s.
170% - 415 f.p.s.
190% - 455 f.p.s.

If your target FPS is between 400 and 450 , you could use any of the following springs,
I don´t reccomend using Systema Springs ( anybody that has been here a while knows my feelings about Systema tongue ), but to be fair they are also included in the List.

Remember all Values are based on the premise that the system is operating 100% correctly, no air leaks, full compression. If you install a Bore Up set this will also increase your FPS, but to fully realize the benifits, a Bore-Up set starts to pay off at the M120 level.


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PostSubject: Re: Upgrade   Upgrade Icon_minitimeMon Apr 20, 2009 9:02 am

its a v.2 gearbox and i just want something more than 320-340 but under 400
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrade   Upgrade Icon_minitimeMon Apr 20, 2009 9:15 am

Then use any of the springs in the first table.

One that I forgot that would probably be the best for what you are looking for is the MadBull M110 ( 370-390 FPS ), IMHO the best AEG springs on the market right now.
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrade   Upgrade Icon_minitimeMon Apr 20, 2009 10:49 am

i can't find a piston with metal teeth and not metal itself
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PostSubject: Re: Upgrade   Upgrade Icon_minitimeMon Apr 20, 2009 12:52 pm

I have never used this piston, but I can see no reason why it shouldn´t work just fine.

I like the fact that it already has the tooth modification done, saves a little work. Wink
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