So i have about 250 to spend on a gun?

I just got my cyma 035a its great. but i was wanting to get a higher end full metal (or mostly metal) assault rifle, preferably an American model. All recommendations appreciated

Doesn't get much better then this.

Woah, iliveforthis, that is quite the Gun you posted! Wow, my jaw is still on the ground, because that is quite an Airsoft gun right there, If you have the money for that SummonHell that is definately what you should get if your planning to get a full metal AEG like that!

dang. Now for a battery what type should i get? and also, would a standard battery charger work?

get a smart charger and some kind of 9.6

so about plan on spending 300 bucks?

Most high-end AEGs have high-speed or high-torque motors so they are built to shoot fast. Whether your get a KWA or CA or a G&P they will work better on a higher voltage battery like a 9.6. You can run these guns on an 8.4 but you wouldn't come close to their full potential.

alexkmmll wrote:

Woah, iliveforthis, that is quite the Gun you posted! Wow, my jaw is still on the ground, because that is quite an Airsoft gun right there, If you have the money for that SummonHell that is definately what you should get if your planning to get a full metal AEG like that!

I own their full zise M4A1 and i must say IMO for $300 you won't find another gun that is stock that'll match what you get from a KWA out of the box. This'll probably sound pretty bias but it's just my opinion. Only guns (out of the box) i consider on par or better then a KWA are amybe G&P M4s and of course Celcius and Systema PTWs and even then there's not much of a gap that a few simple upgrades wouldn't narrow down considerably.

iliveforthis99 wrote:

Most high-end AEGs have high-speed or high-torque motors so they are built to shoot fast. Whether your get a KWA or CA or a G&P they will work better on a higher voltage battery like a 9.6. You can run these guns on an 8.4 but you wouldn't come close to their full potential.

alexkmmll wrote:

Woah, iliveforthis, that is quite the Gun you posted! Wow, my jaw is still on the ground, because that is quite an Airsoft gun right there, If you have the money for that SummonHell that is definately what you should get if your planning to get a full metal AEG like that!

I own their full zise M4A1 and i must say IMO for $300 you won't find another gun that is stock that'll match what you get from a KWA out of the box. This'll probably sound pretty bias but it's just my opinion. Only guns (out of the box) i consider on par or better then a KWA are amybe G&P M4s and of course Celcius and Systema PTWs and even then there's not much of a gap that a few simple upgrades wouldn't narrow down considerably.

Not necessarily. Have you ever worked with a systema before? Or better yet, Have you actually seen how a PTW or CTW operates internally?

It is far different from the gearbox your used to.

im confused. Should i get the kwa cqb or something else?

if you can afford it any KWA for that matter....go for it. the CQBR would loom killer with an EOtech and a silencer....

like i would want to be able to attach scopes and that, also the stock to be adjustable

Lone Wolf wrote:

Not necessarily. Have you ever worked with a systema before? Or better yet, Have you actually seen how a PTW or CTW operates internally?

It is far different from the gearbox your used to.

I know they're quite different internally but performance wise (which counts more in my book), they're not the super guns people seem to think.

mgunner564 wrote:

if you can afford it any KWA for that matter....go for it. the CQBR would loom killer with an EOtech and a silencer....

you are talking about the kwa m4a1 cqb correct?

well, im looking for more of a field type gun then a cqb :/

Pay the extra $30 for their full size M4A1 or pick up a longer and better barrel later and throw a barrel extension on the CQB.

can i get a link to the full size? thanks!

Man, now I really want a KWA...

They're beastly guns. KWA don't have all the realism features or trademarks that do nothing for the gun like most other manufactures put on their guns. They put that money into flat out power out of the box and reinforcing the internals to handle that power. Also found out recently that KWA M4A1 stock barrels are 394mm long making them about an inch longer then most other M4 stock barrels that i've seen. Not a huge improvement but it's one that i've noticed.

thanks alot. I will be looking into these guns as soon as i decide i enjoy airsoft, and i get enough money.

Finding out if you really like AS is a good idea before dropping money on these kinds of things. When i first started a little over a year ago my loadout consisted of a cheap $80 XM8 and a mix match of military surplus from the old playing army days as a kid and my paintball gear (used to play that before converting to AS).

So if i can get a few more links to a variety of m4/m16 airsoft guns i would appreciate it! also, it doesnt have to be m4/m16. It could be lets say the airsoft gi zombat stryker, or similar guns. I do wish to stay with american/british/canadian...so on so forth model guns.

Just look around on airsoftgi.com. There's tons and tons of M16 and M4 variants out there to choose from. G300s are pretty cool looking if you want a variant.

what about like the G4 series?

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=4802
or
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=284_332&products_id=5601

The G300 isn't part of the G4 series. But it is a very nice gun, my buddy has one. Full metal construction, feels good but the grip is a little awkward, and it shoots really hot and really accurate.