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Subject: Airborne? Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:33 am
Ssoooo Durkee made his post requesting info on EMTs... Now help me guys, if you'd please I've wanted to be an paratrooper eer since I was ten. I love seeing teachers faces when they ask what I want to do when I'm older, and I tell them.... I'm gunna jump out of airplanes sssoooo give me what I need to know guys. Original plan was to sign up at 18, but I had enough of my mothers tears to agree to after atleast 20. So any tips??
Reaper Corporal
Posts : 175 Join date : 2009-05-08 Age : 31
Subject: Re: Airborne? Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:49 am
Train. A lot. You will have to be able to do x amount of push ups and sit ups, and running in x amount of time. get good at pt man and you'll do fine
mgunner564 Colonel
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Subject: Re: Airborne? Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:28 am
PT is a must. My cousin was a Ranger (101st) and he said they would PT you into the ground....
Take some x mile marches with a fully loaded ruck...some light weight training is a must also
white wolf General
Posts : 2481 Join date : 2009-03-29 Location : here, not there, Earth
Subject: Re: Airborne? Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:40 am
its also alot of nav. is what I heard
Zane Major
Posts : 920 Join date : 2008-09-05 Age : 114 Location : In a place
Subject: Re: Airborne? Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:48 am
Yeah your main thing is getting conditioned, heres a link to a great site with various workout plans ( I use it and it's amazing)
Definitely. Hundredpushups.com has made a world of difference for me. I had to bulk up for hockey this season, but I hate lifting...so maxxing on pushups/situps seemed like the best option. That site is legit (minus the ads, ya they bug...but hey, its the price you gotta pay!).
The only real advice I can give you other than what has been said is PROTECT YOUR VISION. It would be a shame to take a bb to the eye and as a result, miss out on the opportunity to be truly ELITE.
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Subject: Re: Airborne? Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:41 pm
Okay I got the PT part on lockdown (I do PT with a retired police Sergeant and a Boot camp Drill Sgt. starting in a few weeks)
But now I need tips for like....getting into where I want to go, where to start, and what's the "Ranger Airborne"? Is it just U.S, Army Ranger paratroopers? If so, What makes them different?
EDIT: Just sifted through the onehundredpushups website, I think I'm going to do it this seems like a great idea.
slob212 Moderator
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Subject: Re: Airborne? Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:35 am
Here are some of the finer details for you D-T,
As others have said, PT is a must, but you also need to be mentaly prepared, basic gets you started with the head games, but as you climb the ladder, the Head Games become more refined.
In the Barracks area, you walk nowhere !! You Double Time, and this also includes during your Down Time, Do not get caught walking.
During ground week you will become very intimet with a new type of `` Shark Attack ´´, and Shark Attacks in mass, try to picture your class of 3-400 students in the front leaning rest in an area about the size of a High School wrestling Mat.
Each Chalk will have a Keeper of the Wings, usualy the youngest member, if voulenteers are asked, DO IT !!! I can promise you, you will never for the rest of your life, forget the experiance .
The PT test also consists of doing pull ups, get used to doing the Push Ups, the immediatly do the pull ups, no waiting, no break, no recovery, 24 pull -ups, and make sure they are perfect ! Full extension, Body straight, Full Pull.
Regardless of how much of a PT animal you are, you will not max the PT Test, the trick is to do the most Perfect Push- up, Sit-up and Pull ups as possible, Running is all time based.
Personel inspections every Morning, If you want to have a great time with the Black Hats, if somebody gets `` Gigged ´´, before He can inspect anybody else, the whole Chalk peals off to the Gig Pit together, Yeah it´s a bit extra P.T every morning, but it pays off later during other rotations, Suspended Agony, PLF Training, Can `` O ´´ Peas , 34 ft Tower, A Chalk that sticks together, graduates together.
If you lock in for a 11X1G or V, 18X option, be fore warned, if you drop from training either for academic, Honor, performance reasons, your contract is open ended and you will be reasigned in accordance with the needs of the Army.
11X1G or V, will get you assigned to Batt. after Basic, you will be the lowest, now way around it but there are benifits, you get intesive Pre-Ranger School training, You will be both Mentaly and Physicaly fit prior to Jump School, depending on the number of new troops that need to do both schools, you will be kept together during both, it helps.
During Ranger School, the `` Batt Boys ´´ do get preferential treatment, small errors are over looked, we as other students would end up with a Minor Minus to work off, it is a sad fact but, Rangers take care of their own.
If you need more info, let me know.
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Subject: Re: Airborne? Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:41 am
slob212 wrote:
Here are some of the finer details for you D-T,
If you lock in for a 11X1G or V, 18X option, be fore warned, if you drop from training either for academic, Honor, performance reasons, your contract is open ended and you will be reasigned in accordance with the needs of the Army.
11X1G or V, will get you assigned to Batt. after Basic, you will be the lowest, now way around it but there are benifits, you get intesive Pre-Ranger School training, You will be both Mentaly and Physicaly fit prior to Jump School, depending on the number of new troops that need to do both schools, you will be kept together during both, it helps.
During Ranger School, the `` Batt Boys ´´ do get preferential treatment, small errors are over looked, we as other students would end up with a Minor Minus to work off, it is a sad fact but, Rangers take care of their own. .
thank you Slob, that was all realllyyyy helpful. Alll good stuff to know. But now I need to know how to make sure I go where I want to go, and how I don't just get stuck behind a desk and what not. I believe you started hinting on something like that near the end, in what I quoted here, but I don't understand what all of this means....could you clarify?? Thannk you once again.
Zane Major
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Subject: Re: Airborne? Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:43 am
I would like to throw somthing else out there as well..interesting article I read and it seems I was walking into this trap. Below is a excert from it..theres some graphs in the real one
Quote :
I received an email from a young man who says he is a former high school athlete who wanted me to critique his weight lifting routine as he prepares for Boot Camp. Being a former weightlifting football player myself, I stepped back into time some eighteen years and saw many of the same things I did to prepare for Plebe Summer at the Naval Academy. The only bad thing about the plan and the way I prepared for USNA is that it was the wrong way to train for the military style fitness.
I soon realized when I took my first physical fitness test (PFT) that one maximum set of push-ups was not the same as bench press and no matter what weight machines you use there is no substitute for pullups. Sure pull-downs, bicep curls, bent over rows all work the same muscles groups as the pullups, just as bench press is the same motion as the pushup - BUT nothing prepares you for pushup and pull-up tests quite like doing pushups and pullups to failure during your workouts. Check out my articles on push-ups and pull-ups for workout ideas.
Situps and Running:
The two other events of many physical fitness tests seemed easy enough. Anyone can do situps and run right? Sure most young people can do 50 - 60 situps in two minutes, but I realized to be competitive with other scores and to make a high grade in the situps test, you needed to be able to do 80-100 in 2:00. The only way to reach numbers like that is to practice situps several times a week with timed intervals and pacing yourself. Once I saw people hitting 100 situps in 2:00, I increased my pace (situps per second) and reached 30 situps in 30 seconds. I was moving fast - felt strong until about 40 seconds into the two minutes test where the lack of training caught up with me and I was only able to do another 30 situps in the remaining 1:30 for a total of only 60 situps. I barely passed the minimum standard.
When it was time to run, I was a bit worried when half the guys in my group all ran track and cross-country. I tried to hang with them on the first lap of a quarter mile track as they ran it in 80 seconds. After the first lap, I could not hang at a 5:20 mile pace and was spent for the remaining five laps struggling to breathe and run at my comfortable 7:00 mile pace. I just passed the run with only seconds remaining. How could this be? I was a very fit guy who lifted weights for three hours a day prior to coming to the Naval Academy's version of Boot Camp. Read the "Interval Training" article for more info on workouts to run faster.
Now, even at the age 36, I can nearly double my PT scores at my age of 18 and run sub-6:00 miles for a few miles. The moral of this story is "There are no weights at Bootcamp - start doing the events you will be tested in immediately!" If you want to be in the following branches of the service, here is what you need to be able to do to be competitive and remove the added stresses of physical discomfort and failure:
slob212 Moderator
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Subject: Re: Airborne? Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:59 pm
@ Zane, Great post, truer words have never been spoken.
Here is how your enlistment works,
You do the ASVAB, Physical and depending on what you want DLAB, Mental Exam and Interview,
once the results are in you sit down with your Recruiter, He/She is going to ask what you want to do, and then check to see if you Qualify, have him/her explain EVERYTHING to you, what are the scores what do they mean, and what is required, all your info is already put in to the DA computer, your first print out of options are the MOS´s that are critical, that you qualify for, but does not mean that they are the only ones you qualify for, your recruiter can do an in-depth check, and if a slot is available you can be locked in, and also locked in for assignment to a given Unit or Base ( again if available ), Perscom does all assignments, and if they are up to date, you can get a Pin Point assaignment.
Now here comes the `` Hook ´´ !!
Your Enlistment Contract is a legal binding document, and the only thing that you are being guarenteed is the oppertunity to try for your chosen MOS ( this goes for all arms of the Military Service ), if you should fail because of any reason, you are open to assignment in accordance with the needs of the Military for the period of your enlistment.
The decision is yours, you may want to go for the Enlistment Bonus, if you hook it together with your chosen MOS and should fail, not only are you out the MOS, but there will be no cash in the wallet and to add insult to injury, you still have to serve the enlistment in accordance with the needs of the Army.
If you think that you are ready and want to go for the Black and Gold or the Blue and Gold, lock in for the option of your choice, I would reccomend that you do the Airborne, go to Bragg, get some knowledge and experiance under your belt, do the Pre-Ranger, Ranger Stakes at Bragg ( Excellent Course ) actualy harder than any of the Phases), put in your 4187, Bragg Soldiers have Priority, already Jump qualified and most of the common battle drills are second nature, never mind being able to operate and function on auto-pilot for days.
slob212 Moderator
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Subject: Re: Airborne? Mon May 03, 2010 6:21 am
Have to Ban myself for this, but what the heck, its worth it !!!
Here is a bit of Motivational Influence for you............
Make sure to turn your Speakers up real Loud Neighbors and Parents will Love you for it !!
No have to go Ban Myself
Sanguinary Angel Sergeant
Posts : 223 Join date : 2010-05-01 Age : 33
Subject: Re: Airborne? Mon May 03, 2010 8:02 pm
Compared to air assault, airborne is a vacation lol
RANGER HOOAH!!! Lol
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Subject: Re: Airborne? Mon May 03, 2010 8:47 pm
Hhahaha great powerthirst remix, loved it!!
Insane Mercc Colonel
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Subject: Re: Airborne? Mon May 03, 2010 11:02 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHA I laughed so hard my parents thought I hurt myself!
slob212 Moderator
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Subject: Re: Airborne? Wed May 05, 2010 5:34 am
Quote :
Compared to air assault, airborne is a vacation lol
Beat your Boots Troop !!!!
Rope a Dope School was a Cake Walk !( aside from the Math ) Hardest part was the timed 15 knots, Bowline, Bowline on a Bite, Middle Line Bowline, SheepShank, Double Eight, Slipped SheetBend, SheetBend, Prusik, Clove Hitch, Jug Sling, Butterfly, sorry, I can´t remember the rest. Heck, even the 15 Mile road march ( they tell you it´s 12 ) was fun.