Matrix / Snow Wolf Full Metal M9 PTP High Power Heavy Weight Gas Blowback Pistol

Airsoft Stores, Players at fields, etc. etc.

Never been to an airsoft match yet. There isn't many airsoft stores around where I live in Missouri for airsoft. I might go to Uncle Sam's military surplus and look at them though.

....So you've gone through a WE SCAR and are doing a sniper loadout, but you don't even play airsoft?

Yes, I decided I was going to stick with being a sniper instead since I was disappointed by the SCAR. Also, I shoot my airsoft guns at my house and mess around with them with my friends. I mess around with the guns since they are just interesting to me. Woohoo for living the suburbans. *hint hint sarcasm* I play airsoft, this weekend I might be able to attend my first airsoft war.

OK cool. Just one thing though it isn't a war. There's not multiple forces going against each other seeking reform trying to kill each other, no one is coming home in a body bag. It's just a game that lasts a few hours.

Calling it a war makes it seem like a violent hobby that destroys the minds of children

Ojtiger57 wrote:

Now just to see if I can shoot my friend's real 1911 and try to find someone that has a real M9 that I could shoot.

You will not get a feel for an airsoft gun by shooting the real deal. No matter how much a company may tote it's realistic feel or it's realistic kick, most toy airsoft guns will not feel like their real steel counterparts. I've owned a KWA M4A1 and i've shot a couple of AR15's, both are totally different feel wise.

I have seen a lot of reviews on KWA pistols and they say it is close to the weight of a real M9/1911. Sorry to argue.

To DrummerBoyz95: Hopefully no one comes home in a body bag.

Weights not the issue. Its how the pistols going to perform. Weight is not going to make the pistol perform any closer to the real thing.

I am trying to go for the weight, see what sights I prefer and find out how big or little the hand grip is to see what fits my hand. Also, I want to review it online and see how well it performs.

Weight sure, my M4 weighed close to the real one but it didn't feel like a real M4. Same goes for pistols even just holding an airsoft pistol and then hold a real one feels totally different.

He's right. Many times the Replica companies can't make the replicas to exact dimentions, so they always feel a little different

To iliveforthis99: I listed my reasons that I am going for on the pistol. Thanks.

Then why ask about it on a forum if you already know what you want...?

Well, I was trying to see wether or not to get a 1911 or M9 and what characteristics I was looking for in the pistols. Also, I was seeing what brands you guys think are pretty good and I am seeing if I like them or not since you guys don't like the original pistol I selected.

DrummerBoyz95 wrote:

OK cool. Just one thing though it isn't a war. There's not multiple forces going against each other seeking reform trying to kill each other, no one is coming home in a body bag. It's just a game that lasts a few hours.

Calling it a war makes it seem like a violent hobby that destroys the minds of children

dude, chill, he didn't mean it like that. I agree, I wouldn't call it a "war" either, but that's just some people's vocabulary.

A. sniper wrote:

dude, chill, he didn't mean it like that. I agree, I wouldn't call it a "war" either, but that's just some people's vocabulary.

I am as chill as the ice over the kidneyless woman I left in the bathtub.

DrummerBoyz95 wrote:

A. sniper wrote:

dude, chill, he didn't mean it like that. I agree, I wouldn't call it a "war" either, but that's just some people's vocabulary.

I am as chill as the ice over the kidneyless woman I left in the bathtub.

Thats pretty chill. XD

DrummerBoyz95 wrote:

A. sniper wrote:

dude, chill, he didn't mean it like that. I agree, I wouldn't call it a "war" either, but that's just some people's vocabulary.

I am as chill as the ice over the kidneyless woman I left in the bathtub.

oh my freakin gosh. lol!

I'm going to avoid the never-ending .45 vs 9mm / 1911 vs M9 debate.
(Cough 1911 ForTheWin Cough Cough) Hehe
I prefer the 1911 for oh so many reasons. Airsoft wise they just fit my hand better. M9's do not fit my hand & I do not shoot them as well - even though they have much less recoil.
I have worked with a detachment that was allowed to carry our own gear if we desired & it was approved (I carried my Glock G30) so if your going MilSim as you mentioned keep that as ammo for your choice! Wink Also, you said you were using a L96. Not a lot of using those out here and for MilSim you may keep that in mind.

But "the man" issues M9's & M4's now...

It's one of the main reasons I own a KWA KM4A1 - issue weapon. I also own real steel AR's and its pretty close.
Unfortunately I can't carry 320 rounds in one real steel mag haha.
But as another poster mentioned, NO they will never be just like real steel. Airsoft versions will always be MUCH cheaper to train with

So I'm getting a http://www.kwausa.com/products_m9ptp.html KWA M9 PTP - Professional Training Pistol
Because I like to train with what I'm issued.

And to address your question Ojtiger57, YES.
Get a sidearm.
I can not tell you anything about the Matrix you mentioned though as Ive never handled it.

And yes, get the knee pads. Look at Paintball websites, they have great knee & elbow pads you can wear under your pants.
And since your new & while your at it, ensure you have a good pair of ANSI cert goggles that seal to your face & a mouth-guard's not a bad idea either so you don't get your teeth shot out. Wear a Skimask if you want itll soak up some of the impact!

Oh yes and the L96 is a British sniper rifle so if you're going for realism you have more work cut out for you.

To Ostentatious1: Thanks for all the good information, I was looking for someone like you to post on this subject in the first place. Also, I am probably going to get the exact same M9 PTP from KWA that you are. The only thing is the KWA Tactical M9 PTP seems like it is more realistic since it has a lanyard hold and a rail for lasers, lights, etc. I don't really like the sights on the M1911 much and the airsoft M1911s hold less than the M9s. The M1911 sights seem so outdated to me. They would (in my opinion) be harder for quick target acquistion like the M9 sights. I can't even use the M1911 on BFBC:2 for all that matters. I'm thinking about a M1911 right now I am leaning toward the M9, but the M1911 is a pretty good pistol too. I just don't like the sights since I can't aim with the old ones.

To iliveforthis99: Dang, I wouldn't of ordered the sniper a few years ago if I would of researched that. At that time though, the low price and good reviews on it inspired me to buy it. I really don't want to pose as a British sniper, but I don't think I will be able to buy a new sniper because of the cost.

I have a KWA M9 PTP, and it is amazing! my glocks are more durable, and break less, but this m9 is more accurate, and can fire in the cold well (which is great, because i live in washington state!)
EDIT: I don't have the tactical because im too cool 8-)

Value wise, if you want to go the sniper role - the L96 is pretty good buy.
Nice accuracy, range, power, & upgrade-ability since there are so many after market parts out there for them that fit UTG's version.
If I were you I'd keep it - and just say your story is that your part of a "Joint Ops" thing, or something like that.
It happens quite a bit, & when it does we get to work with people from all over the world.
All checking out each-others different gear Wink We also get ribbons for it, if that matters to you. haha.
I say get what you like & can afford; going MilSim makes your choices quite a bit more difficult.
But if your creative you can make anything fit with a good story Wink You can even have a beard!
Real steal version of the "1911" type you can install different sights. All kinds of them. Big easy to see dots, all kinds. So if the sights are the only hang up between your choice of a 1911 & a M9 - you can swap them, if its like the real ones anyway. I don't have an airsoft 1911 though so can't tell you for sure.
Hope this helped.

And SnoSnipe - thats the version Im getting. No rail. And Ive lived in Snohomish, Everett, Bremerton, Seattle, WA. I'm in for a hard winter in WI I hear ;/

I need to move back to the south

Thanks for more information Ostentatious1. I live in Missouri and it gets pretty cold down here where I live, around 20 degrees Fahrenheit. The thing that worries me is the grips on both guns. I have very small hands (feet too if you even care ) and it might be pretty hard to hold the grip. The weird thing is the M1911 PTP Mark IV has two back post white painted sights, but the front sight doesn't. The M9, however, does have all of the sights painted white. The M9 PTP doesn't have a rail though and it costs $15 extra for the tactical version with a lanyard hold and a rail. It's going to be a pretty hard choice, but I somewhat like modern guns because of the fact they are more updated and current.