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iliveforthis99 Colonel
Posts : 1492 Join date : 2009-04-18 Age : 35 Location : Virginia
| Subject: Re: Gerber Knives Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:35 pm | |
| Which are illegal in the US by the way. | |
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Spl. Durkee General Grade 2
Posts : 4652 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 67
| Subject: Re: Gerber Knives Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:04 pm | |
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Wertuk Captain
Posts : 431 Join date : 2010-05-15 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Gerber Knives Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:24 pm | |
| - gentry wrote:
- it was it was lol a knife in self defense is good just make sure they don't have a gun or ballistic knife
But not if I have marathon or lightweigt, I can get in knife range fast, also it helps to use commando. Besides, if they are far away, I always carry my crossbow. | |
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gentry Major
Posts : 722 Join date : 2010-07-12 Location : virginia
| Subject: Re: Gerber Knives Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:24 pm | |
| no wetuk i know a guy who actually has a ballistic | |
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A. sniper Major
Posts : 502 Join date : 2010-05-14 Age : 30 Location : The Great State of Texas
| Subject: Re: Gerber Knives Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:18 pm | |
| - DrummerBoyz95 wrote:
- "Your lockblade folding knife should have a thumbstud, thumb"hole", thumb "disk" or similar push-thingy, so long as the "thingy" is attached directly to the blade (versus on the grip and linked up via a gearbox of sorts). It should not have a spring that does ALL the opening (yes, the Kershaw Ken Onion series seems to be OK). And finally, the blade needs to have at least some tendency to stay closed in the pocket or whatever bias a "bias towards closure" or "detent" (discussed in more detail later in this chapter).
As long as it's got all that, and the vast majority (including all eight knives discussed at the bottom of this document) do, it cannot be "declared a gravity knife or switchblade" even if you can snap it open with relish . And you can carry it concealed so long as it's concealed in the FULLY closed position, or open-carry if that's your thing (not recommended for BIG stuff, in case you happen on a town with a funky local ordinance or a really cranky cop).
There's no length limit. Seriously ."
Source: http://www.ninehundred.com/~equalccw/knifelaw.html are you sure that's the knife laws for california? cause I know alot of states (including tx) have a 6" limit (which is huge. I have a knife that's just under six inches and it's enourmous for EDC). also, in using a knife in self defense, it can merely be held in the dominant hand. when you would punch with that hand, use the knife to stab instead, making it a deadly stab when it would've normally been a punch. think of your knife as an extension of your hand (albeit a sharp one). | |
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Spl. Durkee General Grade 2
Posts : 4652 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 67
| Subject: Re: Gerber Knives Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:07 pm | |
| - A. sniper wrote:
- DrummerBoyz95 wrote:
- "Your lockblade folding knife should have a thumbstud, thumb"hole", thumb "disk" or similar push-thingy, so long as the "thingy" is attached directly to the blade (versus on the grip and linked up via a gearbox of sorts). It should not have a spring that does ALL the opening (yes, the Kershaw Ken Onion series seems to be OK). And finally, the blade needs to have at least some tendency to stay closed in the pocket or whatever bias a "bias towards closure" or "detent" (discussed in more detail later in this chapter).
As long as it's got all that, and the vast majority (including all eight knives discussed at the bottom of this document) do, it cannot be "declared a gravity knife or switchblade" even if you can snap it open with relish . And you can carry it concealed so long as it's concealed in the FULLY closed position, or open-carry if that's your thing (not recommended for BIG stuff, in case you happen on a town with a funky local ordinance or a really cranky cop).
There's no length limit. Seriously ."
Source: http://www.ninehundred.com/~equalccw/knifelaw.html are you sure that's the knife laws for california? cause I know alot of states (including tx) have a 6" limit (which is huge. I have a knife that's just under six inches and it's enourmous for EDC). also, in using a knife in self defense, it can merely be held in the dominant hand. when you would punch with that hand, use the knife to stab instead, making it a deadly stab when it would've normally been a punch. think of your knife as an extension of your hand (albeit a sharp one). "Real world" confrontations last mere seconds. If you've ever been involved in a scuffle that involved blades, you'd know that you really don't feel the resulting injuries until afterward when your adrenaline chills. We had a thread going on here and I talked about getting jumped on my way home from school 2 years ago and I didn't feel the cut on my wrist until I got home and saw the blood on my shirt. THAT is why fists and blunt objects will always be more effective (physically) than knives. You will feel a blow to the face or groin in an instant. With that in mind, knives do have a great role in self defense. The psychological effect of seeing a blade in your opponent's hand when you have nothing is enough to make you drop your beef and run...which is why I choose to carry one. The last thing I want to do is get into fists over some crap and I certainly don't want to have to hurt anyone else. Again, with that in mind, carrying a knife does drastically escalate the situation. You draw a knife, he might have reason to draw a pistol...know what I mean? | |
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iliveforthis99 Colonel
Posts : 1492 Join date : 2009-04-18 Age : 35 Location : Virginia
| Subject: Re: Gerber Knives Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:14 pm | |
| Wells said Durkee, i agree completely.
Also knife laws like gun laws differ from state to state i believe. | |
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A. sniper Major
Posts : 502 Join date : 2010-05-14 Age : 30 Location : The Great State of Texas
| Subject: Re: Gerber Knives Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:32 am | |
| - iliveforthis99 wrote:
- Wells said Durkee, i agree completely.
Also knife laws like gun laws differ from state to state i believe. yeah, that's why I wasn't sure about the 6" in california. | |
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Spl. Durkee General Grade 2
Posts : 4652 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 67
| Subject: Re: Gerber Knives Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:37 am | |
| - A. sniper wrote:
- iliveforthis99 wrote:
- Wells said Durkee, i agree completely.
Also knife laws like gun laws differ from state to state i believe. yeah, that's why I wasn't sure about the 6" in california. 6" folder or fixed? | |
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gentry Major
Posts : 722 Join date : 2010-07-12 Location : virginia
| Subject: Re: Gerber Knives Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:36 am | |
| It's 4" folded here in va | |
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A. sniper Major
Posts : 502 Join date : 2010-05-14 Age : 30 Location : The Great State of Texas
| Subject: Re: Gerber Knives Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:47 pm | |
| - Spl. Durkee wrote:
- A. sniper wrote:
- iliveforthis99 wrote:
- Wells said Durkee, i agree completely.
Also knife laws like gun laws differ from state to state i believe. yeah, that's why I wasn't sure about the 6" in california. 6" folder or fixed? folder. yeah, I know fixed is illegal. | |
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NoNeed2Hate General
Posts : 2005 Join date : 2009-05-21
| Subject: Re: Gerber Knives Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:59 pm | |
| oh? I thought fixed blades were legal so long as you wear it in plain view (you can''t carry it your pocket" | |
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A. sniper Major
Posts : 502 Join date : 2010-05-14 Age : 30 Location : The Great State of Texas
| Subject: Re: Gerber Knives Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:06 pm | |
| - NoNeed2Hate wrote:
- oh? I thought fixed blades were legal so long as you wear it in plain view (you can''t carry it your pocket"
really? huh, I'll have to look that up. | |
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Spl. Durkee General Grade 2
Posts : 4652 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 67
| Subject: Re: Gerber Knives Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:02 pm | |
| - NoNeed2Hate wrote:
- oh? I thought fixed blades were legal so long as you wear it in plain view (you can''t carry it your pocket"
Yup. | |
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NoNeed2Hate General
Posts : 2005 Join date : 2009-05-21
| Subject: Re: Gerber Knives Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:49 pm | |
| - Spl. Durkee wrote:
- NoNeed2Hate wrote:
- oh? I thought fixed blades were legal so long as you wear it in plain view (you can''t carry it your pocket"
Yup. yes it is indeed legal, just people don't do it as it makes the "average" american uncomfortable or feeling endangered lol | |
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Spl. Durkee General Grade 2
Posts : 4652 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 67
| Subject: Re: Gerber Knives Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:57 pm | |
| - NoNeed2Hate wrote:
- Spl. Durkee wrote:
- NoNeed2Hate wrote:
- oh? I thought fixed blades were legal so long as you wear it in plain view (you can''t carry it your pocket"
Yup. yes it is indeed legal, just people don't do it as it makes the "average" american uncomfortable or feeling endangered lol Just like anyone can legally carry an unloaded firearm on your hip No lie, you can walk around with an UNLOADED gun on your hip as long as it is licensed and you can legally own it in that state. As long as it isn't concealed. | |
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DrummerBoyz95 General Grade 2
Posts : 3897 Join date : 2009-05-13 Age : 28 Location : Ventura County, CA
| Subject: Re: Gerber Knives Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:00 pm | |
| Can you carry an unloaded gun and have a round in your pocket? | |
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iliveforthis99 Colonel
Posts : 1492 Join date : 2009-04-18 Age : 35 Location : Virginia
| Subject: Re: Gerber Knives Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:37 pm | |
| Probably because it's not in the gun. There so many stupid laws out there that just don't make sense. On of my favs is from the UK were it's legal to kill a Scott in one town if they are carrying a bow and arrows. | |
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alexkmmll Major
Posts : 826 Join date : 2009-11-01 Age : 27 Location : Madison, WI
| Subject: Re: Gerber Knives Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:31 pm | |
| In wisconsin Concealed Carry is illegal but you're able to carry firearms in public. And I mean any firearms. You can walk down the street with a loaded AR-15 and the cops can't do squat. Yup.. | |
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phredryxun92 Sergeant
Posts : 331 Join date : 2009-05-29
| Subject: Re: Gerber Knives Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:08 pm | |
| Yeah sometimes here there are open carry picnics, with a bunch of people just carrying around firearms. I believe not to long ago a hardware store near where I lived kicked a guy out for having a handgun open carry in a holster. That was not a good idea on his part. I pretty sure there are a lot of complaints. I believe Wisconsin and Illinois are the only states that concealed carry is illegal. | |
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