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PostSubject: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeFri Oct 31, 2008 8:44 pm

I am bulling the bolt all the way out but when i push it back in it slams (well i keep it from slamming i had my hand on it), it seams like the shears are not cheachin from what i have read but i was wondering if that is true.
Also I Had just put a new barrel in, so Jim got any ideas.
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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeFri Oct 31, 2008 8:48 pm

Ill keep trying to fix it, and I will be at my computer for abour another hour.

Sorry for the doubel post
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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeFri Oct 31, 2008 11:17 pm

Your piston, or trigger sears are broken.

its a pretty costly thing, but from what I have read that sounds like a factory defect because the BAR trigger is supposed to be really durable.

link to most of the parts: http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=443_460&products_id=3063
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http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=443_460&products_id=3062

Theres always this: http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=443_460&products_id=3256

you will never worry about a broken sear again with this trigger, and it comes with an upgraded piston!

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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSat Nov 01, 2008 1:26 am

Wow. sticks. 13. No wonder your a moderator! By the way this some thing happens with the Mp001 airsoft sniper rifle.
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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSat Nov 01, 2008 2:33 am

What does a broken sear look like. My gun may not be catching the spring, or could be broken. Thank youo or the address too.
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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSat Nov 01, 2008 9:33 am

Mine did this. I simply took out the cylinder, made sure everything was put in correctly and tightened up, lubed properly and re-installed it. What this is is a problem with either your sears or the spring guide stopper. MAKE SURE the spring guide stopper is pushed all the way in.

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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSat Nov 01, 2008 10:35 am

Ok ill try that. I did not go in the clinder but i might have bumped it i was working on the hopup, and my shears do not look like the edge has been worn of. Ill get back at 1700z/.
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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSat Nov 01, 2008 11:40 am

Thats good info Jim, I have never heard of that happening before.

Is this the "spring guide stopper"? http://www.uncompany.com/pageproductdetails.asp?prodid=4223

It also could be the spring that support the trigger sear has snapped.

Heres a pic of the trigger sear: http://www.uncompany.com/pageproductdetails.asp?prodid=4306

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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSat Nov 01, 2008 1:24 pm

Yeah sticks that's the spring guide stopper. If it's not pushed in properly it can pop out under tension meaning either the bolt stays back and can't be pushed in, or what Jman described in his.

It seems most likely that there is a problem with the alignment between the spring guide or piston and the spring guide stopper or piston sear. The trigger sear is largely irrelevant apart from the fact that it houses the piston sear. Make sure that the piston sear springs back when you push it down, if it stays down you're missing a part.

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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSat Nov 01, 2008 5:29 pm

I would go with sticks solution , but you could also try sending it back o the factory due to it probally being a factory defect , unless you broke it yourself by mistake or otherwise .
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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSat Nov 01, 2008 8:34 pm

i think that my friend has the same problem on his mb02
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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSat Nov 01, 2008 10:14 pm

What upgrades are in it atm? If you have installed any cylinder upgrades without sear upgrades then the stock sears aren't strong enough to support the extra power in which case it's your own fault and you've voided the warranty so you can't send it back. You need to upgrade the sears anyway if you haven't already done so.

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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSat Nov 01, 2008 10:18 pm

It is fixed now, I opened the clinder and took it apart and put it back togeather and that seamed to work.

I was putting in a Deepfire barrel when this happened so I might have bumped the clinder.
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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSat Nov 01, 2008 11:20 pm

Good to here that your gun is fixed. Admin and the rest of the mod's I believe it is time to close this thread.
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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSat Nov 01, 2008 11:27 pm

Now this is annoying it stared to slam again.
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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSat Nov 01, 2008 11:33 pm

maybe something is loose and when you go into it you put it back into place but when you start firing it knocks it back out of place
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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSat Nov 01, 2008 11:50 pm

I take back from what I said earlier. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSun Nov 02, 2008 2:05 pm

Ok try sending it back to the store you bought it from, it has to be a defect.

If they wont take it back open up your trigger assembly. When you do this make sure all the springs stay where they are. Pay special attention to the spring under the trigger sear. Replace that one even if you don't think its needed. Then try shooting the gun again.

Of coarse just try to get a new gun before you try all this Smile.

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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSun Nov 02, 2008 2:08 pm

I would send it back but I painted it and it says exact same condition as recived. I might ask after I take it apart again and relube it hopefuly that will work.
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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSun Nov 02, 2008 2:12 pm

Ok here is a question is the shear supose to go down when the triger is pulled when there is no presure?
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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSun Nov 02, 2008 2:38 pm

which sear are you talking about?

Try taking a pic of your trigger assembly. I'm sure we could help you alot more then.

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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSun Nov 02, 2008 4:26 pm

there on the way give me 10 min
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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSun Nov 02, 2008 4:49 pm

If you are on dial up go back now
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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSun Nov 02, 2008 5:11 pm

OK man. The pics don't work for me. If you tell me what upgrades you have in your gun I can hep you out, because if you have an upgraded spring or piston and not an upgraded piston sear then the sear will not be able to withstand the extra tension if it's left stock.

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PostSubject: Re: BAR-10 bolt slam   BAR-10 bolt slam Icon_minitimeSun Nov 02, 2008 5:25 pm

The only upgraded thing in it is the Tight bore which was what I was puting in when this happened.

Also you want me to email you the pics you have Microsoft word 2003 or 2000 right?
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