CYBERGUN MONOPOLY

Okay, I know they're a BIG company and re-brand guns quicker thanI'll finishh off a Hersheys, but I have heard from a few other airsofters that they're attempting a Monopoly? (generally looking at YOU sticks ) Let open discussion begin on this topic, let the dirt be slung and the opinions spew out. Hopefully you guys can lighten up the subject for me.

EDIT: Also, what would a MONOPOLY exactly mean for us? what would it do to the sport of airsoft? know of any other companies attempting it? If so, state them.

I heard that several companies are looking to make a monapoly not sure how true it is but its just what i heard i hope its not true.

I actuality haven't heard about cybergun or any other companies trying to do that I didn't know anything about them.

Ya they are trying to make cheaper guns but i bet they will have lower quality not to mention i bet they will all look the same...

I haven't heard ANYTHING about cyber gun lately.

so Im not the one to contribute.

Cybergun couldn't pull off a monopoly. Back in 2001 in, Microsoft owes their company to Apple. The American Government was going to crack down on Microsoft for being a monopoly because 98% of all computers happen to have been Microsoft, apple came in with the Ipod in 2001 and their computers started selling.

So cybergun would be pulled down attacked if they became even close to a monopoly.

Well the only problem is that the government doesnt look at airsoft to much only when it comes to passing laws to make it harder for us to play. So they may be able to get away with it if they do advertis what they are doing.

AFU wrote:

Cybergun couldn't pull off a monopoly. Back in 2001 in, Microsoft owes their company to Apple. The American Government was going to crack down on Microsoft for being a monopoly because 98% of all computers happen to have been Microsoft, apple came in with the Ipod in 2001 and their computers started selling.

So cybergun would be pulled down attacked if they became even close to a monopoly.

Actually Apple was there long before that, but thats another story.

Cybergun could pull of a Monopoly if they bought a couple of trade marks. They would only pull it off in the US though, due to our trade mark laws. The reason they would be able to do it is because we have these laws that make sure noone copies someone else's logo and produce a similar product to make some quick money. What are on airsoft guns? Thats right trade marks from RS guns. Cybergun buys the rights to these trademarks and sues people in the US for selling products that have these trademarks.

Essentially heres what happens.
1: Guns with trademarks come from Japan/China were there are no trademark laws
2: Retailers sell these guns
3: Cybergun buys the trademark license from the RS gun company, to produce airsoft guns
4: Cybergun sues retailer that sells the guns with 'their' trademarks



To answer Doubletapps question, A monopoly is a situation where one single company controls a certain industry through buying out all the companies or effectively controlling the imports/exports of this industry(through Rebranding... sound familiar now ). This gives the company unlimited control over pricing and the end result of this certain industry. So if Cybergun did this they could essentially be selling a crappy Walmart springer for 3X its worth. No other company could sell a product because they are owned by Cybergun.


http://www.airsoftohio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14915&highlight=Cybergun

http://www.airsoftohio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11830&highlight=Cybergun

http://www.airsoftohio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6717&highlight=Cybergun

Theres alot more I'm just tired of sifting though the 8+pages of info, I'm sure I could find the origional thread on AO about a certain Ohio retailer that was sued(airsoftarms)by cybergun. I beleive there was a counter suite of harrasment, we won this one.

sticks

Monoplys are illegal , this became a law back , oh say , 150 years ago , with JD Rockefeller . He owned , all of the oil stock , and Andrew Carnagie , he had steel stock , both of these men could charge what ever they wanted for steel , oil , because nobody else was their to charge otherwise , cheaper . The same thing would happen for airsoft if cybergun completely took over , they could charge what ever they want because there would be no competion . But even if they did start to own a good bit of airsofting stock the government would stop them , some one above said that the government did not care enough about airsoft to enforce this law , you would be wrong , even if the government did look the other way whenever Cybergun bought out all of the airsoft gun stock , all some one would have to do is place in a call to Oasha , who would in turn put a stop to it , although I don't know how . You have no fear about a Monoply ruining airsoft .

Good history A_S.

However they could effectively make a monopoly by showing that they were only an importer/rebrander, therefor they would have little say in the actual cost of the product(this being a complete lie but it would work).

Either way I don't think its a good idea to support a company that would even think about this.

sticks

Well I doubt that they can buy out every gun company , some probally just want sell .

I think that if they were succesful in makeing a monopoly i know for a fact i would go out of my way not to buy from them and im sure others would do the same.

Hey genius , if they became a monopoly , then you wouldn't have a choice to not buy from them , either do so , or become a paintballer .

no because there will always be the companies who don't sell out now they wont be as common but they will still be there.

If Cybergun owns a large portion of the stock , I would keep my airsofting company , if I had one , that way I could make millions selling the only quality guns out there , another thing thayt Cyber Gun could do is open another company under a different name and everything , but share the sales , that way technically they wouldn't have a monopoly , just close enought to it .

Ya thats true but guys i think we are worrying to much it most likely wont happen and if it does it will be shut down quick so i think we are fine.

Cybergun, in my opinion would never be able to pull off a Monopoly, for the following reasons,

1, The Quality of the replica would have to meet or be better than the standards set down by the Lisencing company, Colt is not going to give them exclusive rights if thier QC is not up to par. Replica owners today, are future Real Steal owners.

2. Before Cybergun could even think about making a move for a Monopoly, they would have to buy out all the other companies Lisencing privliges, and Trademark Rights. TM, CA, Wells, D-Boys, G&G,G&P and so on would never play ball with that.

3. Cybergun is not ready and mature enough with thier After Market parts, Replacement Parts, thier selection is just to limited and not up to standards for High End tuning possibilities.

This is an evil rumor that has been going around for a long time,

I have never heard of them other then there Thomson but that's it and slob I think that's right why would TM sell out to them or any other company?

If there ever was all our guns (i prey that none of us own cyberguns) would be very valuable.

silent--likethenight wrote:

If there ever was all our guns (i prey that none of us own cyberguns) would be very valuable.

I own a Cybergun Thompson, and It's an outsanding gun, just check a few reviews on it. And LOL Sticks, I knew the DEFINITION of a monopoly, I was asking what it would mean for AIRSOFT. But you also answered that, as well as a few others, so thanks!