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PostSubject: Systema or G&P Motor?   Systema or G&P Motor? Icon_minitimeTue Dec 21, 2010 1:13 pm

Not quite sure, I want it for my gr16 r4, anyone know if i'll have to upgrade any other parts if I get a really powerful motor?
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PostSubject: Re: Systema or G&P Motor?   Systema or G&P Motor? Icon_minitimeWed Dec 22, 2010 11:57 am

First,..........................

Are you running Standard internals,
Gears, Spring, Piston ??

Upgrading to a Higher performance motor, will increase your ROF, but depending on the Type of motor you are thinking about, you run the risk of tearing the internals to shreds, worst case scenario, complete destruction of the GB.

More info is needed, What is your current setup ?? Standard, High-Speed, High Power ( FPS ), Bore-Up, Main Spring Strength, `M´, `SP´, ect..................................
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PostSubject: Re: Systema or G&P Motor?   Systema or G&P Motor? Icon_minitimeWed Dec 22, 2010 1:23 pm

slob212 wrote:
First,..........................

Are you running Standard internals,
Gears, Spring, Piston ??

Upgrading to a Higher performance motor, will increase your ROF, but depending on the Type of motor you are thinking about, you run the risk of tearing the internals to shreds, worst case scenario, complete destruction of the GB.

More info is needed, What is your current setup ?? Standard, High-Speed, High Power ( FPS ), Bore-Up, Main Spring Strength, `M´, `SP´, ect..................................

I'm upgrading my G&G GR16 R4 to a high-ROF DMR, I have all the standard internals in except for a 6.01 TBB, madbull hop up spacer & hop up bucking, and a supressor to hide the excess TBB.
Here's the link http://www.hitguns.com/G-G-GR-16-R4-Plastic-Series-p/gg-gr-16p-r4.htm
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PostSubject: Re: Systema or G&P Motor?   Systema or G&P Motor? Icon_minitimeThu Dec 23, 2010 3:47 am

I would go with the G&P Ultra Custom M120 motor, the Systema Highspeed will give you a higher ROF but,.....

A bit harder on the Wallet,
Absolute Energy Pig,
Need to dish out a bit more for a new Pinion Gear ( the standard on the motor is crap ).

The G&P UC M120 will come close to the Systema performance without the drawbacks.
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PostSubject: Re: Systema or G&P Motor?   Systema or G&P Motor? Icon_minitimeThu Dec 23, 2010 2:06 pm

slob212 wrote:
I would go with the G&P Ultra Custom M120 motor, the Systema Highspeed will give you a higher ROF but,.....

A bit harder on the Wallet,
Absolute Energy Pig,
Need to dish out a bit more for a new Pinion Gear ( the standard on the motor is crap ).

The G&P UC M120 will come close to the Systema performance without the drawbacks.

So I need a pinion gear? Can I get a link for the pinion gear & the G&P motor? Oh and what else will I need to upgrade if I get the G&P motor?
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PostSubject: Re: Systema or G&P Motor?   Systema or G&P Motor? Icon_minitimeThu Dec 23, 2010 5:03 pm

He was talking about needing a Pinion of you bought the Systema. Not the G&P I'm pretty sure
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PostSubject: Re: Systema or G&P Motor?   Systema or G&P Motor? Icon_minitimeThu Dec 23, 2010 6:09 pm

M14 double-taps wrote:
He was talking about needing a Pinion of you bought the Systema. Not the G&P I'm pretty sure

Oh, thanks... sorry for my noobness Embarassed I found one for a sweet deal http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/upgrade-part/parts-upgrade-aeg/motors-parts/gandp-m120-high-speed-motor-for-aeg.html $20 cheaper then the ASGI one.
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PostSubject: Re: Systema or G&P Motor?   Systema or G&P Motor? Icon_minitimeThu Dec 23, 2010 7:43 pm

He who asks is a fool for five minutes.
He who does not remains a fool forever.

Be careful, it may look like a good deal, but that website,if I recall correctly, has a tendency to nag people with shipping prices. Check that first before commiting.
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PostSubject: Re: Systema or G&P Motor?   Systema or G&P Motor? Icon_minitimeThu Dec 23, 2010 10:56 pm

M14 double-taps wrote:
He who asks is a fool for five minutes.
He who does not remains a fool forever.

Be careful, it may look like a good deal, but that website,if I recall correctly, has a tendency to nag people with shipping prices. Check that first before commiting.

Okay, will do
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PostSubject: Re: Systema or G&P Motor?   Systema or G&P Motor? Icon_minitimeFri Dec 24, 2010 2:53 am

They don't "nag" people with shipping, they charge $30 (for moderate sized orders at least) because they gotta ship it halfway accross the globe, switch couriers, put your merchandise through a hundred hands and deal with triggerhappy (pun?) Customs agents. Rolling Eyes
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Bottomline....it's super expensive. Rolling Eyes
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Gotta love greedy fat cats dominating the economy in Hong Kong ^-^

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PostSubject: Re: Systema or G&P Motor?   Systema or G&P Motor? Icon_minitimeFri Dec 24, 2010 1:54 pm

Will ANYONE tell me if I need any additional parts after getting the motor?
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PostSubject: Re: Systema or G&P Motor?   Systema or G&P Motor? Icon_minitimeFri Dec 24, 2010 4:02 pm

let me tell you a magical tip, one that's not easily accepted, but applies for almost all AS internal mechbox situations.
When you buy/install this motor, it will work. However, some stock parts on AEGs aren't built to withstand the wear and tear that this new motor will add. For example...the gears. they will strip quicker. Purchasing higher-quality gears will prevent this, atleast for a very long time. Essentially, you're replacing the gears, no?
Now, what would you do if you replaced the motor, and didn't replace the gears, and, after some use, they broke and stripped? I'll tell you; you'd replace them. So really, it makes no difference if you wait to replace your gears until they break. Get the most use out of them!
Buying the new gears and the motor at the same time is safer, but hey it really isn't neccesary.

Basically, YES. You can buy the motor and use stock parts and you'll be fine. For a while.
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PostSubject: Re: Systema or G&P Motor?   Systema or G&P Motor? Icon_minitimeFri Dec 24, 2010 5:21 pm

M14 double-taps wrote:
let me tell you a magical tip, one that's not easily accepted, but applies for almost all AS internal mechbox situations.
When you buy/install this motor, it will work. However, some stock parts on AEGs aren't built to withstand the wear and tear that this new motor will add. For example...the gears. they will strip quicker. Purchasing higher-quality gears will prevent this, atleast for a very long time. Essentially, you're replacing the gears, no?
Now, what would you do if you replaced the motor, and didn't replace the gears, and, after some use, they broke and stripped? I'll tell you; you'd replace them. So really, it makes no difference if you wait to replace your gears until they break. Get the most use out of them!
Buying the new gears and the motor at the same time is safer, but hey it really isn't neccesary.

Basically, YES. You can buy the motor and use stock parts and you'll be fine. For a while.

THANK YOU!! Finally a... kinda straight answer, I WILL BUY STEEL GEARS. Is there anything else that I'll need to get in advance?
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PostSubject: Re: Systema or G&P Motor?   Systema or G&P Motor? Icon_minitimeFri Dec 24, 2010 9:43 pm

Can you shim? If not, take your Replica to a specialist. Otherwise your gonna strip your gears even faster.
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PostSubject: Re: Systema or G&P Motor?   Systema or G&P Motor? Icon_minitimeSat Dec 25, 2010 3:34 am

[quote="alexkmmll"]Can you shim? If not, take your Replica to a specialist. Otherwise your gonna strip your gears even faster.[/quote]

Shim? Apparently I can't cause I don't even know what that means, luckily I know of somebody that can fix it
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